002 On Writing Productively - ProductivityCast

002 On Writing Productively – ProductivityCast

002 On Writing Productively - ProductivityCastWriting productively is as much a skill as it is an art. And, you probably find yourself writing more today than you might think. When it comes to being productive, your ability to write well is of paramount importance. In this episode, Ray and Augusto discuss how they approach and the tools they use for writing productively, and hopefully it gives you some perspective on your writing and productivity.

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In this Cast – On Writing Productively

Ray Sidney-Smith

Augusto Pinaud

Show Notes – On Writing Productively

Resources we mention, including links to them will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context.

Annie Proulx

Was Charles Dickens paid by the word?

Google Docs (Google Docs Speech to text functionality) – Google Drive
If you’re wanting to sign-up for G Suite to securely use Google apps for your business, sign up for a free trial here.

Evernote

Scrivener

Grammarly / iCab mobile browser

Apple Pages

yWriter 5

Boomerang GmailRespondable

Zotero

Getting Things Done by David Allen

Imposter Syndrome

Brene Brown TED Talks

Slack

Pareto Principle

Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott

Robert Hass

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are you ready to manage your work and
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are your hosts Ray Sidney-Smith and
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zero two and with that in this episode

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we’re going to be discussing writing and
productivity enjoy I just want to get

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right into it because this is a really
important topic I think to everyone who

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is a Productivity enthusiast and really
wants to understand how to be more

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productive in their daily lives
I mean from everything we do in our work

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days there there is some you know form
of writing and we can do it more

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effectively you know more efficiently
and I think that there are many things

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we should think about when it comes to
writing whether it be addressing an

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email appropriately using email
appropriately being able to write that

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next report being able to write you know
even just filling out forms and even

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writing longer materials whether that be
blog posts which a lot of us have to do

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for work now
and because of social media and then you

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know if you’re if you’re an author or
some other kind of creative professional

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and you’re looking to you know write
longer materials it’s really important

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for you to be able to do this in the
most productive manner and so I just

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wanted to kick it in with some sort of
general principles for being able to to

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write productively and so so let’s just
start off with basically the the what I

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believe is the initial and augusto you
can push back if you if you think I’m

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off off point here but I really believe
that reading is fundamental right it’s

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really important for us to remember that
in order to be good writers we have to

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be good readers because if you don’t
know what what and how to read well then

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you’re not going to have the experience
with the written word that’s necessary

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for you to be able to put words down on
paper or on screen that are really going

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to be effective if you don’t read you
can’t write okay and in a way if you

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think on a weight training K what what a
way trainer do is a series of exercises

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so he can’t own his muscles okay and he
did that daily and he do that constantly

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I mean writing is exactly the same thing
you need to read constantly and all the

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time and different things because people
think oh well I’m going to be I want to

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write or I’m going to be writing about
business so I don’t need I’m not in the

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business of reading fiction and I
completely disagree I think you need to

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set a schedule of read everything from
fiction to business to self-improvement

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to productivity to even religion in the
sense that it will show you how

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different people use different ways to
express the same things and I’m not

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advocating copy any of those styles but
it will allow you to understand and to

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identify your own style no and if you
can spend the time to read and to do

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that training at the end of the day
how’d you expect you’re going to be

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ready for the moment that you are going
to be trying to compete that is at the

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moment you’re going to be trying not to
write that text over the years have

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people coming to me and say well how how
can you write this much and say well

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it’s simple just what every day okay
just sit and write every day could you

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read every day and if you can only have
a 10 minute to read every day then you

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only have 5 minutes to write every day
because a relationship I think need to

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be two to one twice the time of reading
for the time you want to write yeah I

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have to say I am guilty I have to have
to make the productivity confession that

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I have always leaned into nonfiction
reading and it’s it’s so powerful to be

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able to utilize fiction based writing
techniques when you are writing non

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you know and I primarily write
nonfiction and you know I I have to say

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you know you’re absolutely right Augusto
it’s so important it’s almost imperative

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that you read both sides and different
genres you know from everything from

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Rumi to Shakespeare to to books that
have been translated from other

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languages it really does give you a
sense of how to communicate in the most

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broad way with specificity you know and
I mean Broadway to the broadest audience

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and with specificity meaning writing
efficiently basically writing so that

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every word counts and and I think you
know some people sort of hear you know

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sort of the e Annie Proulx sort of
writing with with such specificity that

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you know you write very very precisely
and therefore not as many words I don’t

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necessarily mean that but I do mean that
you should you should make most words

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count right I mean you know you’re not
Charles Dickens you’re not being paid by

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the word I presume you’re not being paid
by the word if you are then I’ll

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continue continue Dickens is you know a
perspective there but if you’re not

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getting paid by the word
you know you should still you should

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still make sure that your that your
words count and and so many times I

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receive an email from somebody and you
know it’s just it’s just so wordy and

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and I I not again I’ll probably second
confession of the of the podcast this

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week is that I I happen to be a wordy
writer you know I tend to write multiple

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paragraph emails and we’ll talk about
this when we get to sort of tools we can

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use you know I’ve used the tool recently
to help me sort of cut down on that

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because I did find myself writing you
know four or five six seven paragraphs

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of email and then recognizing that while
those emails were well-written they were

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unnecessary and they’re probably going
to compete with my ability to go ahead

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and get a response so always good to
know that that you should be reading and

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you should also be reading your own
writing and I think that’s really

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important that’s a that’s a mechanism
for you to be able to see a final

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product from a year ago to see where you
were to where you are now

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and I think it’s really helpful to see
how how you grow and progress as a

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writer two things in what you said I
don’t one now it’s good to know that my

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emails are short pasted on your standard
and that I have always by the way can

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see the animals are incredibly long but
because mine tend to be a couple of

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paragraphs sometimes three but seven
that’s I agree it’s long we put it but

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you need to get to be able to learn how
I’m not saying to use it every time but

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you need to be able to write a two liner
when you need it to be extremely

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effective and the only way you’re going
to do that is if you read and you

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practice and you can really have the
technique or under your arms otherwise

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the moment you need to send that email
where you’re extremely frustrated

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extremely matter is extremely important
and you need it to be a two line or an

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effect if you’ve never done it you can’t
simple as that the other thing for

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people is there’s two things that
especially you know until you find that

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unperfect that voice is pretty if you
are starting to ride on a new topic or

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you are starting to write I change you
know something different or a new

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general you start reading your stuff
loud ok talk none don’t read on your

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mind
use your voice there is two reasons for

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that one that pays the reading that you
you’re just reading on your mind you can

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go much faster and second allows you to
really identify from a different sense

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how the structure of the sentence work
that’s trick number one and trick number

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two is while you are doing that record
yourself because if you miss pissed off

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on the first reading you will catch
yourself on the second and it your mind

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will feel on the blanks if I write a
sentence that says the house read my

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mind will fill in the blank an adverb
and my mind will read the house is read

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if you read that with your voice loudly
you will when you read the house read

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you will say hey let me read that again
the house read oh I missed a verb and a

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lot of times the reason that’s missed is
because you are trying to go faster than

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what the process here and write the
first draft without any regard but when

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you are going to edit you need to slow
down and be much more

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purposeful on what you are doing with it
which we detect we get to the next point

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which is the the power of planning I
have been and and I think you gusto you

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know probably are on the same page but
again you can disagree with me here you

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know I really believe in the power of
planning when it comes to writing a

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well-planned written piece becomes a
well-written piece and you know so many

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times I see people sit down and they
write from start to finish and they’re

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like wow this is great I had such an
amazing writing session and then they

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sit down other times and they can’t
write and they have trouble doing so and

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I just don’t even understand you know
why you would put yourself through that

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torture of having this on you know
writing off writing sort of feeling when

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if you had an outline you would be able
to write section by section and

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therefore have a successful writing
session every time and so I think that

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everything should be outlined you know I
would actually like it if every email

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had headings you know I you know it’s
like one of those things where for a

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time actually I was actually sending
emails and if it was a multiple-point

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email I would put you know bolded
headings for what each item was so that

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people could jump to their particular
you know issue and just read that

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section so anyway the point my point is
is that when you when you really decide

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to start writing you really should start
to decide to outline well first if

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you’re gonna write well and write
productively outlining is well worth the

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time when I do consult in and I’m
talking to companies and we’re talking

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about their problems they are having you
know with their marketing and sales and

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on how they’re not talking to each other
and there is a lot of what I do and how

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I’m going to help them the first thing
is that outline on how where we are we

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identify the problems identify the
possible causes and before we even go to

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where we want to go because otherwise
what you’re giving people

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otherwise you can get distracted and
pull if you think on on a meeting um I

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like to have an agenda when I sit on a
meeting why because it works in the same

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way of the outline it means we cannot
discuss other topics of course we can

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but at least we are going to make sure
that whatever topics are on the original

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list are going to be taught and we are
going to be able to move forward with

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them you know if we don’t plot out how
we’re going to get to our goal we’re not

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going to get to our goal and so if you
really want to write productively you

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need to know what that you know as I
said it’s sort of like you know

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directions to you know to a location you
know driving directions you know you you

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need to look at a map and you see
turn-by-turn instructions you know or

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written turn-by-turn instructions but
you know in essence the outline is that

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it’s your ability to do that and yeah
you could totally deviate off your

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course and then come back on to it to
get back to where you need to go while

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we’re on that topic we that’s sort of a
good segue into the tools we can use to

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write more productively and I’ll just
start off with that I do a lot of

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writing in Google Docs within the Google
Drive suite

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I do a lot of outlining obviously in in
that tool but I also mind map a lot so

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you know you can find me using a wide
variety of mind mapping tools that I

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then save the final mind map either
exported as an RTF document you know of

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a word processor format document that I
can save into Evernote or into Google

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Drive into Google Docs and and so that’s
how I do a lot of my writing and so it

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can be free form so a mind map you know
it’s just free form and then you could

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reorganize it once you get it into into
RTF so think about it from that

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perspective what you know um I like
index cards and I do a lot of outlining

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on index cards and part of the reason is
the constraint factor of the space

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otherwise I may be doodle for hours
instead of thinking about the that’s not

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outline but but for the writing per se I
use an app that I’ve been using for

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years called Scrivener I have a
love-hate relationship with Scrivener

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mostly laughs but
sometimes hate and finally after many

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many many many years they move to the
iPad and I can now edit into the

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Scrivener format in the iPad they came
some years ago with an ability to export

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on RTF so so I’ve been doing that for at
least 2013 maybe 12 I’ve been able to

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work on my iPad with the Scrivener files
but I used to be forced to go to the Mac

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and once in a while backup and compile
and all that and now I can do all that

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in the iPad that for me is key since you
know that’s my main working machine I

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also use an of an application called
grammarly who we also have a love-hate

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relationship with because they decide
that they’re not going to allow the app

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to work on the iPad I have no
understanding why but because well at

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the end of the day I’m a geek at heart I
discover that you can trick the app and

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hopefully they are not listening there
is a software called ICAP mobile that is

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basically a browser you can go into the
browser change the idea of your ground

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browser and now you tell grammerly that
you are not an ipad but you are a

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computer ok a Mac or a PC and then
grammerly works perfectly so it’s not

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that their software is not capable it is
that they have decide not to make it

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available for the mobile version of the
browsers and so I’ve been able to use

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grammarly on the iPad that way for many
years if I need to give attack to

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somebody obviously goes to pages because
from there I can turn it into a word or

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whatever I need to and lastly I use my
iPhone to record my voice as I said

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before you need sometimes to record what
you’re reading so especially when you

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are getting into something new into a
topic that is new for you it is really

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important until you find that new voice
of that topic you’re creating does

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great tools I wanted to make a note for
folks that Paige’s Apple pages is

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available within iCloud and I only know
that because I was recently utilizing it

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with a client who’s who’s in the midst
of writing a book and she wanted she was

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using Apple pages inside said okay well
this would be a great opportunity for me

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to learn about how the collaboration
tools work within the sort of iWork

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suite that has now gone into the iCloud
platform and so we tried it in and for

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all intents and purposes it works just
fine

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III we haven’t gotten too heavy into it
and into it but you know it was able to

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what allows us to be able to share the
same document edit the same document

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comment on it and so and so forth and
it’s a it’s a pretty decent interface

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it’s obviously lacking some some of the
more sophisticated pieces that you would

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have within the down downloadable
desktop version but you know I think

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it’s pretty competent for you to be able
to do a lot of your writing in the cloud

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so that’s pretty cool on the Google Docs
side I will I will make a note that

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there is an option to do speech to text
and so on on the Mac I believe it is

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command shift s and on the PC it’s
control shift FS and it opens up a

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microphone and if you have a microphone
embedded in your computer already then

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you just speak and Google Docs will then
transcribe whatever you’re saying and

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I’ve used this in a lot of different
environments from being in a meeting and

0:16:54.960,0:16:59.580
wanting to just take notes and just
turning on the Google Docs and and

0:16:59.580,0:17:03.990
keeping an eye on it because if you if
there’s a silence for example then it

0:17:03.990,0:17:08.310
stops listening because it’s like hey
there’s nobody talking and once in a

0:17:08.310,0:17:13.440
while not once in a while quite often
it’s inaccurate right so it’s maybe 85

0:17:13.440,0:17:18.480
to 90 percent accurate so you know it’s
just the reality factor of you’re you

0:17:18.480,0:17:21.540
having multiple voices you’re not
speaking directly into the microphone

0:17:21.540,0:17:26.190
that kind of thing but if you if you are
yourself recording something then you

0:17:26.190,0:17:30.720
can you can just put your headset on and
speak directly into Google Docs and and

0:17:30.720,0:17:34.140
the accuracy is getting better and
better every day at least for me so

0:17:34.140,0:17:38.760
that’s really helpful on on the note
about Scrivener Scrivener has a

0:17:38.760,0:17:44.340
equivalent it’s freeware it’s a it’s an
open-source software called why writer

0:17:44.340,0:17:48.810
and I’ll put links to all these tools in
the show notes but why writer is really

0:17:48.810,0:17:51.870
great because it also you know operates
on sort of just creating these

0:17:51.870,0:17:59.340
independent RTF files and what you’re
doing is you’re you can write scenes you

0:17:59.340,0:18:03.780
can write characters and then just sort
of slice and dice them put them together

0:18:03.780,0:18:08.130
into the story that you’re trying to
create when you’re doing in this case

0:18:08.130,0:18:11.460
fiction pieces
so why writer is pretty phenomenal two

0:18:11.460,0:18:15.770
other tools that I really just want to
note is that from an email perspective

0:18:15.770,0:18:22.650
boomerang the email tool that allows you
to be able to send email later within

0:18:22.650,0:18:28.230
the Gmail interface and also can return
an email to you say you want to get the

0:18:28.230,0:18:33.090
email to return to your inbox because
because someone didn’t respond with an X

0:18:33.090,0:18:36.870
number of days we could do that in
boomer with boomerang well boomerang has

0:18:36.870,0:18:41.580
another functionality that they’ve built
into the into the web browser extension

0:18:41.580,0:18:47.030
and it’s called respond Abal and respond
a bolt gives you an indicator as to how

0:18:47.030,0:18:52.290
responding your email is and this is
actually a tool that has been giving me

0:18:52.290,0:18:57.720
feedback in terms of writing shorter
more concise emails and emails that have

0:18:57.720,0:19:02.310
clearer questions and so if you’re
really looking to get emails responded

0:19:02.310,0:19:08.040
to what the the boomerang respond double
extension is actually really phenomenal

0:19:08.040,0:19:12.210
I believe it’s just built into boomerang
but you know you I’ll provide a link to

0:19:12.210,0:19:15.870
it in the show notes so that you can you
can find it but it’s really phenomenal

0:19:15.870,0:19:19.020
because it gives you just a little
indicator that’s like green orange or

0:19:19.020,0:19:22.620
red and it just eat green yellow or red
or something like that and it tells you

0:19:22.620,0:19:27.240
whether or not your email is going to be
responded to with high likelihood or low

0:19:27.240,0:19:32.160
likelihood and based on its structure
and so I just think it’s really a you

0:19:32.160,0:19:35.850
know it’s a general help kind of thing
it’s not like it’s going to give you a

0:19:35.850,0:19:41.430
guarantee of response but I like I like
knowing that it’s in the green and that

0:19:41.430,0:19:46.050
the email is you know I’m going to going
to reasonably get a response based on

0:19:46.050,0:19:50.280
the way that I’ve written it and then
the final tool is called Zotero so if

0:19:50.280,0:19:53.150
you do any kind of Reese
especially if you’re in an academic

0:19:53.150,0:19:57.200
environment and you’re writing scholarly
pieces or anything like that or if

0:19:57.200,0:20:02.300
you’re in school Zotero is just awesome
you go to zotero’s website you can

0:20:02.300,0:20:08.030
download both the desktop tool and the
web browser extension and they work in

0:20:08.030,0:20:12.740
confluence to help you track any
materials that you might be reading and

0:20:12.740,0:20:20.060
it does it does an automatic screenshot
of the material it downloads the

0:20:20.060,0:20:24.680
materials metadata so that you can track
it’s all of that stuff for bibliography

0:20:24.680,0:20:28.550
inch and footnoting and it just does it
so beautifully and while can’t speak

0:20:28.550,0:20:33.950
more highly of Zotero this this brings
us to sort of writing challenges what

0:20:33.950,0:20:38.660
are the biggest writing challenges at
least that I see when I am working with

0:20:38.660,0:20:44.420
clients and the first one is of course
the daily writing habit and gusto you

0:20:44.420,0:20:49.310
and I both know that a daily writing
habit is not easy you know for writing

0:20:49.310,0:20:54.110
specifically I don’t care how long you
have been writing I’ve been writing for

0:20:54.110,0:20:58.790
a really long time and there is two
things that happen to writing that you

0:20:58.790,0:21:04.040
know first it’s hard to write that
that’s a fact okay second it’s hard to

0:21:04.040,0:21:08.810
justify why we’re not writing today
there is always something that seems

0:21:08.810,0:21:12.740
more important than writing and that
make writing daily really difficult the

0:21:12.740,0:21:18.530
other thing is we tend to think oh if I
get the inspiration I will write and in

0:21:18.530,0:21:22.340
my opinion inspiration only come when
you write it there and sit there every

0:21:22.340,0:21:29.090
day and inspirations know where to find
uh suddenly the other issue you find is

0:21:29.090,0:21:34.010
people forget that there is to process
and try to make it in one you know in

0:21:34.010,0:21:39.170
the same way when we talk about getting
things done and he talks about collect

0:21:39.170,0:21:43.940
and then process in writing it’s exactly
the same there is a lot of people who

0:21:43.940,0:21:48.560
during the years in doing GTD especially
at the beginning try to collect and

0:21:48.560,0:21:52.040
process at the same time and the results
are catastrophic right it is the same

0:21:52.040,0:21:56.660
thing you need to learn to write forget
about grammar comments just write just

0:21:56.660,0:22:02.180
dump it there and then come and this
equivalent in productivity GTD to cook

0:22:02.180,0:22:06.400
to collect and then come back
and process that’s right that’s when

0:22:06.400,0:22:10.000
you’re going to edit that’s where you
discover that you write right without a

0:22:10.000,0:22:14.350
T engage and doesn’t make any sense on
the sentence but it’s perfect because

0:22:14.350,0:22:20.290
then you let the brain go and the text
is here now you can work in to make it a

0:22:20.290,0:22:25.270
text okay I took me years to understand
that writing is more about editing that

0:22:25.270,0:22:29.590
about writing writing is a sport the
difficult part is to edit what you wrote

0:22:29.590,0:22:35.680
but when you try to do it at the same
time it’s really almost impossible and

0:22:35.680,0:22:40.570
the third thing is what I call the
imposters in or what is called imposter

0:22:40.570,0:22:45.310
syndrome and that happened to everybody
especially in writing okay Who I am to

0:22:45.310,0:22:49.630
tell the people they’re there they’re
going to know it’s fake and now the

0:22:49.630,0:22:54.310
reality is you are the guy who have read
you know the 200 books again the reality

0:22:54.310,0:22:58.300
is you are the guy who has spent all
this time researching this and what

0:22:58.300,0:23:04.210
you’re saying is your perception of the
point but it’s really hard to go over

0:23:04.210,0:23:09.670
that and let it go and you need to learn
to work with that imposter syndrome

0:23:09.670,0:23:16.150
because the reality is even the mosque
if you listen to people and right now

0:23:16.150,0:23:20.980
her name is escaping me Brenda Brown
finally comes to my mind okay if you

0:23:20.980,0:23:25.590
listen to Brenda brown holes in must
standards has been incredibly successful

0:23:25.590,0:23:30.880
she will tell you that she’s wake up
every morning feeling like an impostor

0:23:30.880,0:23:35.710
okay and she need to work every day
Akane’s her syndrome and that happened

0:23:35.710,0:23:40.900
to everybody who rides I don’t care if
you write fiction I don’t care if you’re

0:23:40.900,0:23:47.440
right nonfiction or both or anything it
is it is a job at the end of the day

0:23:47.440,0:23:52.510
writing it is a job and you need to deal
with that and deal with a beautiful part

0:23:52.510,0:23:57.640
of the job and the ugly parts of the job
and feeling like an imposter is one of

0:23:57.640,0:24:03.130
the ugly things for the job yeah I
couldn’t agree more that you know most

0:24:03.130,0:24:08.740
of your if you’re going to take writing
as a serious part of your overall

0:24:08.740,0:24:12.310
productivity which I think everybody
should you know as I said at the top of

0:24:12.310,0:24:15.350
our show you spent a lot of time writing
and you don’t even

0:24:15.350,0:24:18.919
recognize maybe you do recognize it
maybe you don’t but a lot of people

0:24:18.919,0:24:22.940
don’t recognize that you know writing is
part of the job because you do so much

0:24:22.940,0:24:27.289
of it especially with regard to email or
even messaging in slack or documents

0:24:27.289,0:24:30.650
that you might be writing and a daily
writing habit allows you to be able to

0:24:30.650,0:24:36.799
structure focus time there and you know
sort of like the the Pareto principle of

0:24:36.799,0:24:39.770
writing would be that 80% of your time
is spent

0:24:39.770,0:24:44.270
editing 20% of your time is originating
content and you know you really need to

0:24:44.270,0:24:47.360
spend you know more time editing than
you do

0:24:47.360,0:24:53.690
writing and that’s just the reality of
it to have good you know writing pieces

0:24:53.690,0:24:58.520
the outcomes you really need to learn
how to edit well so definitely you know

0:24:58.520,0:25:02.929
take the take the the critic off your
shoulder when you’re generating content

0:25:02.929,0:25:06.140
and then put the critic back on your
shoulder when you’re editing content

0:25:06.140,0:25:09.409
people talk about writer’s block and I
think you know writer’s block really

0:25:09.409,0:25:14.030
just means that you haven’t found the
right inspiration at that moment and

0:25:14.030,0:25:20.150
this is where I highly recommend reading
or finding material that can be

0:25:20.150,0:25:24.919
inspirational to you so that you can
start writing I mean you know again a

0:25:24.919,0:25:28.940
gusto can talk probably for the next
hour on resistance but since we don’t

0:25:28.940,0:25:32.990
have time for that you know I really do
think that we should remember that this

0:25:32.990,0:25:36.980
is not there’s no such thing as writer’s
block in my opinion there there is

0:25:36.980,0:25:42.020
literally just you not writing or you
writing and you always have a dialogue

0:25:42.020,0:25:45.470
going on in your head and writing
baguettes writing so if you write

0:25:45.470,0:25:50.179
anything just start writing then you
were able to then start to bring

0:25:50.179,0:25:55.010
yourself back onto the path of what you
intend to write about so don’t don’t

0:25:55.010,0:25:58.820
think that writer’s block is anything
more than a fiction you you start

0:25:58.820,0:26:03.530
writing anything and your mind will
start getting into the routine of

0:26:03.530,0:26:08.360
writing when you tell it to so I think
that those a real important factor about

0:26:08.360,0:26:13.250
that and you know Ann Lamont who wrote
the book bird by bird talks about having

0:26:13.250,0:26:19.070
what she calls I’m quoting here shitty
first drafts and and so you know those

0:26:19.070,0:26:23.110
first drafts those those crummy first
drafts those bad first drafts are

0:26:23.110,0:26:28.130
imperative to you to you getting to
great pieces of work at the end of the

0:26:28.130,0:26:29.929
day
good pieces of work it doesn’t have to

0:26:29.929,0:26:35.840
be great it just has to be good and you
know the reality is is that once you do

0:26:35.840,0:26:41.720
that you’re able to then edit and edit
into you know good places you know more

0:26:41.720,0:26:48.409
than more than that I I I want to to
give our listeners with a quote about

0:26:48.409,0:26:56.929
writing from a writer called Robert has
who said it’s hell writing and it’s hell

0:26:56.929,0:27:04.490
not writing the only tolerable state is
having just written and think about that

0:27:04.490,0:27:11.179
when you come it is really hard to write
and if you have not been writing you

0:27:11.179,0:27:18.260
know it’s harder for hard hard to not
been right the only fun stage is written

0:27:18.260,0:27:21.769
but you could see this stuff when you
can see the stuff you publish when you

0:27:21.769,0:27:27.470
consider books on the Shelf but the only
way that will happen is if you go

0:27:27.470,0:27:32.360
through hell with a smile
smiling is always a good a good tactic

0:27:32.360,0:27:39.529
right smile in the mirror as they say so
so for those of you who might have some

0:27:39.529,0:27:44.809
writing challenges on our website if you
go to productivity castanet and again

0:27:44.809,0:27:49.399
the link is there in the show notes if
you go to productivity castanet you can

0:27:49.399,0:27:55.730
find a forum you can send us your
questions regarding issues you might

0:27:55.730,0:27:59.870
have with writing productivity and Augusto and I are happy to tackle them we

0:27:59.870,0:28:04.700
also have a voice recording tool so if
you want to be on the podcast we can

0:28:04.700,0:28:08.659
filter through some of the good
questions and maybe we’ll hear your

0:28:08.659,0:28:13.700
voice here on productivity cast asking
the question so go ahead and visit the

0:28:13.700,0:28:17.600
website and so this wraps up another
episode our second episode of

0:28:17.600,0:28:21.320
ProductivityCast the weekly show about
all things personal productivity let’s

0:28:21.320,0:28:26.809
go do some writing that’s it for this
episode of productivity cast the weekly

0:28:26.809,0:28:32.149
show about all things productivity with
your hosts Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto

0:28:32.149,0:28:34.570
Pinaud

 

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