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011 What will it take to change to the opposite platform than you’re currently on? – ProductivityCast

In the last episode, Art asked a poignant and thought-provoking question of the ProductivityCast team? “What would it take to change to the opposite platform or operating system than the one you’re currently on?” It piqued our interest to think and discuss this, so that’s what we’re doing on this episode! Enjoy!

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In this Cast

Ray Sidney-Smith

Augusto Pinaud

Francis Wade

Art Gelwicks

Show Notes

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Star Wars Edge of The Empire RPG: Beyond The Rim

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are you ready to manage your work and

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personal world better to live a more

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fulfilling productive life then you’ve

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come to the right place

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welcome to productivity cast the weekly

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show about all things productivity here

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are your hosts Ray Sidney-Smith and

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Augusto Pinaud

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the one question we didn’t answer we

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didn’t ask and it probably could be a

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whole separate discussion would you

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switch is there something that would

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compel you to switch from one to the

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other and that’s a really hard question

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so is it really the device that’s making

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the difference or is it us

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welcome everybody to productivity cast

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today we are going to have a

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continuation of last week’s conversation

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and today we have Augusto Pinaud Art

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Gelwicks and Francis Wade last episode

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listeners heard us debating the the

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whole idea of smartphone productivity

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choosing smartphones and the various

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features both hardware and software wise

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we’re doing so Art Gelwicks came up with

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this question at the end so art what

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were you thinking when you asked that

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question and we’re gonna we’re gonna

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have that conversation today and really

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discuss what it would take for us to

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switch sides

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whether you’re Apple going to Android or

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if you’re on the Android platform going

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to Apple or even Windows Phone and

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making the switch to to Apple or

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otherwise so so are you want to give us

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some background there and we’ll go from

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there

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okay it was really a kind of a two-part

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thought the first part was related to if

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you think about how frequently we change

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productivity apps most of the people who

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like to to delve into the different

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application we change these things all

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the time we’re always trying to new and

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we’re always trying new functionality

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we’re bouncing from app to app but it’s

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always within the same platform so if

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you’re an Apple user you’re always

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looking at the Apple version if you’re

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an Android user you’re always looking at

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the Android

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and so on so what occurred to me is that

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what would be compelling enough about an

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application to make you change not

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application but actually entire

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platforms if there is even something I

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spent quite a bit of time since the last

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show thinking about this and I can’t at

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least personally find anything that

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would be compelling enough to make me

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change that entire underlying platform

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so then I go to the second part which is

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what’s so compelling about the platform

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that you’re on that would keep you from

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making that switch and I ask that

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because years ago I used to have an

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iPhone 4 I just have an iPad and I made

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the switch to Android and I thought

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about it over the weekend would I be

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able to make the switch back and I

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honestly cannot find a single argument

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that would be compelling enough for me

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to make that jump back over to the Apple

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ecosystem and the same thing to go the

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other direction if I had gone the other

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direction so that’s the question I’m

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throwing out to you guys thinking about

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your platforms that you use in the tools

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that you use what would it take to make

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you change I also I had because of work

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I have in my bag and Android device

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because of another project that is going

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to use Google Docs

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I consider the possibility of getting me

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you know I’m more powerful Android

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device or a Chromebook or something on

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those mines I also spend time looking at

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it oh okay what will require if I said

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okay well let’s change oh that’s the

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first thing will be of course this I

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already I’m pretty invested hardware

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wise okay into iOS will that means I

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need to reinvest and get much of the

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stuff I asked into Android but that

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without any doubt will make the change

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difficult but then I went to their

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scenario and say okay fine let’s go

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let’s assume the MasterCard fairy comes

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to you and said well you know we’re

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going to let you use this card and then

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now buy all the hardware you want so

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how’re will not be an issue will I

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change and like you I spend a lot of

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time thinking on the answer to that and

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I couldn’t find a compelling reason

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either so it’s not that as we

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established is more powerful or less

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powerful than the other one I think that

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was pretty well established that it’s

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not the case I just think it is an

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argument we’re similar to what we have

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years ago about being a PC user for a

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Mac user both platforms as we agreed on

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a certain way surprisingly for me both

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platforms has everything to be able to

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run one way or the other

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now it’s a matter of how much you want

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to deal with certain things so Android

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and I I think we all agree will allows

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you to do a lot more customization that

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what iOS does and iOS for everything

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that I do it works fine is there

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anything I want to do I can only and I

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expect I’m thinking and there was only

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two things I would love to do that I

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cannot do on my iPod but I will be able

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to do on on an Android device but they

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were not they were nice you have not

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must have I couldn’t find any must-haves

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that I will say okay we’ve said let’s

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move on but in the other side on the iOS

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I found a couple of apps that there is

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no answer at this point at least not in

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the same application I may need to

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change applications and I like that they

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work well they do backups well they

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synchronize well then it’s hard for me

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to adjust

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I’m moving anywhere so like you I

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couldn’t find any reason but the good

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news is it’s not a matter of capability

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it’s not oh I cannot move to Android

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because it’s less powerful or because of

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it’s just I have right now as currently

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set everything on iOS everything

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synchronized and in order for me to

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change I will need to spend certain

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amount of time creating or figuring out

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how I’m going to get all those changes

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happen and then how I can get all the

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synchronization happening again

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it is possible yes it is do I want to

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spend the time doing that no I’m happy

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enough with the platform I have right

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now I think I come at it with a

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completely different perspective since I

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use almost all of these applications on

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all of these platforms on a regular

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basis and so the idea of changing my

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entire platform and it is actually kind

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of kind of counter counterintuitive to

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me but I’ll say it from the perspective

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that my platform is is built on

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primarily Google and then these

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offshoots like Evernote is a big chunk

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of my productivity system and Google’s

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that other big chunk of it you know

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that’s that’s pretty much where most of

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my world lives and so that moves from

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device to device pretty seamlessly today

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I can use all of my Google products

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pretty much on an Android device I can

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use them on an iOS device I can use them

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on Windows surface you know pro 3 with

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no problem I can use them on various

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desktop and laptops so it’s not really

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an issue for me in terms of switching

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platforms but going back to arts

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original question which is what would be

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compelling enough would be a tool and

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not that I’m supporting this but a tool

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like OmniFocus 2 where I think a lot of

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people

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in the productivity community who who

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want to use a tool as robust as

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OmniFocus to feel the need to switch to

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iOS since an and/or Mac because it’s

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only on those platforms and so so that’s

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really the only thing I can see is is a

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tool that has such a robust set of

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features and is so focused on sake

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getting things done the GTD methodology

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that you would switch because it’s going

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to fundamentally be you’re working

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productivity tool I don’t see many other

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tools like that I’m but I’m interested

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to hear others perspective on it for me

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I I think my view of the world changed I

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think as I mentioned on an earlier

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episode when I moved from Florida to

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live in Jamaica and what happened was

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that everything got everything gadget or

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technology related or app related for

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the most part everything was removed

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from my immediate grasp so I found

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myself having to choose platforms

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systems that were easy to repair or

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replicate or record find a user

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community just a quick example I’m a

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triathlete and I moved to Jamaica with

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kind of a bike a bicycle that had only

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had water called 650 size wheels 650

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centimeter or millimeter whichever one I

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remember but anyway I was the only guy

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in Jamaica who had these these sized

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wheels so of course when the time came

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to buy tires in the tubes get it

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repaired it was a huge problem so it as

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an example so I wouldn’t pick an

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operating system that I couldn’t either

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repair on my own or find someone here

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who could who could do the repair him or

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herself I wouldn’t pick an exact

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anything exotic and right now the iOS

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platform is a bit exotic there’s no

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Apple storage on the entire island I

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don’t have to travel to to actually walk

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into one there appear

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that are done locally I imagine are a

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bit limited they’re not expert repairs

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done by someone who does every day on a

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regular basis so these are the kinds of

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issues that lead me to want to choose

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the simplest solution the one where I

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can do the most and and rip and replace

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and in Android system replacing one

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phone with another is is a no-brainer

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because everything is in the cloud and

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it would really take a compelling case

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come really compelling use case set up

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set up apps or a set of capabilities or

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some breakthrough device to make me go

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the other way and switch because the

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simplest most common solution is the one

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that I would always gravitate to so I

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probably wouldn’t switch not I don’t see

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myself switching for for a while it’s

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really interesting when you think about

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it because from what I’ve heard from

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everybody so far we’re really bought

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into how the not only the applications

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but the platforms and physical text fit

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into our productivity systems and I know

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of the four of us will pretty much we’re

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very evolved in how we’re approaching

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our productivity systems a lot of people

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are just at the beginning edge of that

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and they’re wondering okay which one

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should I choose

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should I go Apple should I go Android

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because if you listen to this it’s not

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exactly an easy switch once you’ve made

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that decision so to modify the second

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part of my question I’m going to throw

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this out to the group if you had no apps

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loaded on your device of choice Android

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or iOS what’s the one aspect of the

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operating system that makes you the most

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productive for me it’s the sharing

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capability inside of Android the ability

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to take any article I’m looking at any

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piece of information and share it to

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just about every other app on the phone

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is huge for me because I do a lot of

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social media content curation and

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article curation to be able to push

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content out very easy

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without having to go through a lot of

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multiple steps it’s just extremely

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compelling when I go to the PC and sit

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down and do the same types of things

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it’s a lot more steps it’s not as

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convenient and it’s not as productive

0:13:33.779,0:13:42.690
you need to make me think about how much

0:13:36.850,0:13:45.190
people last when the late Steve Jobs

0:13:42.690,0:13:46.930
species are going to be like trunks but

0:13:45.190,0:13:49.089
that’s exactly what you described and

0:13:46.930,0:13:52.839
that is exactly what a lot of people is

0:13:49.089,0:13:56.440
experiencing I agree in a couple of

0:13:52.839,0:13:58.570
things you said after you pick one it’s

0:13:56.440,0:14:00.670
tough to change not impossible but it’s

0:13:58.570,0:14:02.829
tough you know one of the things that

0:14:00.670,0:14:05.320
part of the explain and testing I did

0:14:02.829,0:14:07.870
was on the Android device mostly because

0:14:05.320,0:14:12.700
it’s playing device protesting the

0:14:07.870,0:14:15.399
software I have never had really take

0:14:12.700,0:14:17.890
the time to put some of my iOS stuff so

0:14:15.399,0:14:23.230
for example we have a family calendar

0:14:17.890,0:14:28.270
they’re on on on on iCloud so I spend

0:14:23.230,0:14:30.970
time playing with that and see you know

0:14:28.270,0:14:33.700
if I decide to make the change and I’m

0:14:30.970,0:14:35.350
the only one changing because that’s for

0:14:33.700,0:14:39.010
me for variable you know right now

0:14:35.350,0:14:43.260
everybody in my household is on iOS so

0:14:39.010,0:14:46.240
it’s easy for me to also maintain one

0:14:43.260,0:14:48.760
operating system one cut from what set

0:14:46.240,0:14:50.740
of applications and so forth will I

0:14:48.760,0:14:53.890
change everybody times right probably

0:14:50.740,0:14:56.529
not so so that was a factor to consider

0:14:53.890,0:14:58.420
so I said well let me see if I can get

0:14:56.529,0:15:01.360
the calibers and I was surprised that

0:14:58.420,0:15:04.240
very required click or two I understand

0:15:01.360,0:15:07.990
but it was possible to get in that

0:15:04.240,0:15:12.579
Android device all my iCloud calendars

0:15:07.990,0:15:14.410
to even the point that I can now use

0:15:12.579,0:15:17.130
that device for scheduling meetings

0:15:14.410,0:15:20.709
saying that I had not done in the past

0:15:17.130,0:15:23.220
because the calendar is not complete so

0:15:20.709,0:15:26.500
the change is possible what will make it

0:15:23.220,0:15:28.660
compelling for me to change I don’t know

0:15:26.500,0:15:32.770
that is that I could not find that

0:15:28.660,0:15:34.840
answer everything that I seem to like to

0:15:32.770,0:15:40.530
do it’s possible

0:15:34.840,0:15:43.030
to do right now on on iOS so I’m not

0:15:40.530,0:15:46.240
considering that oh well if I can get

0:15:43.030,0:15:49.210
this or that feature it will be great

0:15:46.240,0:15:53.890
you know I was there are certain things

0:15:49.210,0:15:56.200
that are coming to iOS 11 that are going

0:15:53.890,0:15:59.110
to be great for the average me so one of

0:15:56.200,0:16:02.400
those is the ability to share and the

0:15:59.110,0:16:05.470
ability to access documents and all that

0:16:02.400,0:16:11.080
and as I was looking at that you know

0:16:05.470,0:16:13.330
when when it was announced on WWDC I was

0:16:11.080,0:16:15.220
listening – oh that’s so cool and then I

0:16:13.330,0:16:18.010
stopped for a second say well but I do

0:16:15.220,0:16:20.920
that today I have this app and I’ve been

0:16:18.010,0:16:24.130
doing the exact same thing they are

0:16:20.920,0:16:28.960
describing for really long time what

0:16:24.130,0:16:34.960
it’s doing is bringing that ability to

0:16:28.960,0:16:37.330
the masses and on your right again on on

0:16:34.960,0:16:41.590
that arc one of the things on which if

0:16:37.330,0:16:45.850
challenges is we may be on some of the

0:16:41.590,0:16:48.160
things ahead of some people mostly

0:16:45.850,0:16:49.840
because we have been claimed for a much

0:16:48.160,0:16:52.420
much longer time

0:16:49.840,0:16:56.170
you know I I’ve been playing on this

0:16:52.420,0:16:59.260
game of of productivity and devices for

0:16:56.170,0:17:01.810
longer than what I want to admit one of

0:16:59.260,0:17:05.380
the things that one that are super

0:17:01.810,0:17:11.470
compelling for iOS is that simplicity

0:17:05.380,0:17:14.800
you know I I tend to avoid these days

0:17:11.470,0:17:18.370
things that will be time sucking thanks

0:17:14.800,0:17:22.510
for me and the ability to have unlimited

0:17:18.370,0:17:25.120
customization will be something that it

0:17:22.510,0:17:27.820
will for sure put me to play in ways

0:17:25.120,0:17:31.000
that I should not be playing because I

0:17:27.820,0:17:34.360
will not be working I will be played so

0:17:31.000,0:17:39.250
that’s one of those things that I really

0:17:34.360,0:17:42.250
look into the iOS as a plus and that I

0:17:39.250,0:17:42.820
understand it’s my own thing you know my

0:17:42.250,0:17:46.000
birthday

0:17:42.820,0:17:48.140
when my birthday came early this year my

0:17:46.000,0:17:50.600
wife told me how

0:17:48.140,0:17:52.460
walking into a store and she told me you

0:17:50.600,0:17:55.340
know you really like it skywars why’d

0:17:52.460,0:17:58.100
you don’t buy this role-playing Star

0:17:55.340,0:18:00.410
Wars game and she wanted to buy it for

0:17:58.100,0:18:03.410
my birthday actually no no no don’t buy

0:18:00.410,0:18:06.230
that and she was taken out by I’m sure

0:18:03.410,0:18:09.770
why I don’t understand I say well it’s

0:18:06.230,0:18:12.290
simple if you get me that game what is

0:18:09.770,0:18:15.490
going to happen is I’m going to spend a

0:18:12.290,0:18:18.050
ridiculous amount of our spied on half

0:18:15.490,0:18:20.300
into getting good at this game into

0:18:18.050,0:18:23.750
finding who to play this game with I

0:18:20.300,0:18:26.960
know that that I really can afford right

0:18:23.750,0:18:30.260
now to have that time talking activities

0:18:26.960,0:18:34.300
online and my concern with Android from

0:18:30.260,0:18:37.130
the geeky perspective is I will be

0:18:34.300,0:18:41.090
sucked back into those things you know I

0:18:37.130,0:18:43.580
I remember given it was another time in

0:18:41.090,0:18:46.580
my life and where I have more of that

0:18:43.580,0:18:49.030
time but I was when Palm Pilot you know

0:18:46.580,0:18:51.770
talking about how old I am

0:18:49.030,0:18:53.810
release the first calendars that you

0:18:51.770,0:18:56.390
have the option to not college they did

0:18:53.810,0:18:59.060
not release that backwards it was just

0:18:56.390,0:19:00.890
forward so for the new devices and I’m

0:18:59.060,0:19:04.400
not going to admit how many hours I

0:19:00.890,0:19:06.560
spend although I was able to hack the

0:19:04.400,0:19:08.990
current platform so you could install

0:19:06.560,0:19:13.130
those files so you could have all those

0:19:08.990,0:19:16.250
new features and that is my fear with

0:19:13.130,0:19:22.070
Android it’s not a matter of it’s more

0:19:16.250,0:19:26.590
capable or less capable than my iOS it

0:19:22.070,0:19:31.280
is it’s going to bring me into this time

0:19:26.590,0:19:35.630
vortex where I’m going to now spend 60

0:19:31.280,0:19:38.570
80 160 hours trying to figure it out and

0:19:35.630,0:19:41.480
trying to do and customize this little

0:19:38.570,0:19:46.300
thing I have a few comments and maybe

0:19:41.480,0:19:49.160
I’m sidestepping arts question yet again

0:19:46.300,0:19:52.010
with my answer but I’m gonna I’m gonna

0:19:49.160,0:19:54.050
try and answer this without going off

0:19:52.010,0:19:55.880
the rails again but just a couple of

0:19:54.050,0:20:00.260
points here the thing that would be

0:19:55.880,0:20:03.050
compelling enough for me to switch is

0:20:00.260,0:20:06.830
for me would be probably the ability to

0:20:03.050,0:20:09.470
move information from mobile to tablet

0:20:06.830,0:20:11.840
to the desktop environment seamlessly

0:20:09.470,0:20:13.760
and and I think I’m kind of saying the

0:20:11.840,0:20:15.440
same thing that you said art and a

0:20:13.760,0:20:18.950
little bit about what you agreed with

0:20:15.440,0:20:22.790
Augusto in terms of what iOS 11 purports

0:20:18.950,0:20:25.790
to be able to do but I use a complement

0:20:22.790,0:20:27.800
of applications today that I’ve cobbled

0:20:25.790,0:20:30.380
together in order to be able to move

0:20:27.800,0:20:32.870
documentation seamlessly across systems

0:20:30.380,0:20:35.300
from Google Drive to Dropbox to

0:20:32.870,0:20:37.160
pushbullet and a number of different

0:20:35.300,0:20:39.290
applications that that specifically

0:20:37.160,0:20:42.710
share information from one place to

0:20:39.290,0:20:47.110
another and I believe that if that was

0:20:42.710,0:20:50.360
integrated into the the operating system

0:20:47.110,0:20:53.060
all told that would be enough for me to

0:20:50.360,0:20:55.490
be able to switch platforms today though

0:20:53.060,0:20:59.570
I don’t see even with the rollout of iOS

0:20:55.490,0:21:02.090
11 on on the Apple you know ecosystem

0:20:59.570,0:21:04.850
that still isn’t as well tied together

0:21:02.090,0:21:06.290
from the airdrop perspective you know

0:21:04.850,0:21:08.110
this idea that you can move an

0:21:06.290,0:21:11.570
application from your phone to your

0:21:08.110,0:21:13.430
desktop seamlessly if you have legacy

0:21:11.570,0:21:15.410
technology and you’re running the wrong

0:21:13.430,0:21:17.690
platform with Apple that stuff doesn’t

0:21:15.410,0:21:19.820
work backwards compatibility wise you

0:21:17.690,0:21:21.860
know there’s a lot of stuff that Apple

0:21:19.820,0:21:24.650
holds you back from being able to do if

0:21:21.860,0:21:26.630
you’re not buying the newest

0:21:24.650,0:21:29.480
they keep you in the loop for three

0:21:26.630,0:21:33.830
versions prior the gusto is that what it

0:21:29.480,0:21:37.310
is so so you know if you if you have an

0:21:33.830,0:21:39.290
older model iPad those those things are

0:21:37.310,0:21:41.720
not going to move you forward and I just

0:21:39.290,0:21:44.600
I really can’t be locked into the the

0:21:41.720,0:21:47.390
Apple ecosystem all told when it comes

0:21:44.600,0:21:48.860
to being able to move cross-platform so

0:21:47.390,0:21:51.050
I’m kind of speaking out of both sides

0:21:48.860,0:21:53.750
of my mouth here right because I want my

0:21:51.050,0:21:55.490
operating system and my mobile operating

0:21:53.750,0:21:58.790
system to sort of work in tandem with

0:21:55.490,0:22:02.210
one another but I really want them to be

0:21:58.790,0:22:05.030
more app based so that I’m able to use

0:22:02.210,0:22:07.070
them cross-platform in essence the thing

0:22:05.030,0:22:10.310
that’s compelling enough for me is

0:22:07.070,0:22:12.710
sounds like it’s not quite something

0:22:10.310,0:22:14.620
that’s operating system related and if I

0:22:12.710,0:22:17.040
may interject

0:22:14.620,0:22:20.830
and I think that’s one thing that also

0:22:17.040,0:22:23.100
make this or will make towards the

0:22:20.830,0:22:29.230
future the discussion even harder

0:22:23.100,0:22:30.310
because if we go back to 2007 so 10

0:22:29.230,0:22:35.340
years ago

0:22:30.310,0:22:40.570
the concept of the cloud it was still a

0:22:35.340,0:22:43.210
concept that it was reserved for

0:22:40.570,0:22:45.160
producer by the word to certain people

0:22:43.210,0:22:47.650
not because there was not available but

0:22:45.160,0:22:51.930
because you require a certain technical

0:22:47.650,0:22:57.220
knowledge in order to reach to it and

0:22:51.930,0:23:02.430
now the cloud is available invisible and

0:22:57.220,0:23:05.830
and basically available for everybody

0:23:02.430,0:23:09.550
what the other thing we’re seeing a lot

0:23:05.830,0:23:13.420
if even but there is there are companies

0:23:09.550,0:23:17.610
who have decide not to cross-platform

0:23:13.420,0:23:20.980
their software most companies are too

0:23:17.610,0:23:22.960
cross-platform their their their

0:23:20.980,0:23:27.540
software so what we are going to be able

0:23:22.960,0:23:31.480
to do in a future is pick those apps

0:23:27.540,0:23:35.560
change the device and go run and I think

0:23:31.480,0:23:38.950
us that was not even a possibility and

0:23:35.560,0:23:43.320
years ago we are more close to the point

0:23:38.950,0:23:45.760
where the platform is turning into

0:23:43.320,0:23:49.420
invisible yes there are four main

0:23:45.760,0:23:55.300
operating systems Windows Mac OS iOS and

0:23:49.420,0:23:59.260
Android and I don’t know and fine I’m

0:23:55.300,0:24:00.970
sorry and Chrome OS I’m Chrome OS III I

0:23:59.260,0:24:04.390
tend to put on during time Chrome OS

0:24:00.970,0:24:09.070
together but because that’s where Google

0:24:04.390,0:24:11.980
seems to be pushing them but but did you

0:24:09.070,0:24:15.150
think of that it may not be compelling

0:24:11.980,0:24:19.330
right now to change one way or the other

0:24:15.150,0:24:23.410
but the reality is if you give tomorrow

0:24:19.330,0:24:25.570
an iOS device to part and say sorry this

0:24:23.410,0:24:27.640
is the device you can use from now on

0:24:25.570,0:24:30.310
they may things he may

0:24:27.640,0:24:32.950
means about the way they work in Android

0:24:30.310,0:24:35.890
but he will be completely functional in

0:24:32.950,0:24:38.560
a couple of hours same thing was same

0:24:35.890,0:24:40.480
thing with me if you push me to an

0:24:38.560,0:24:42.730
Android device and I’m picking out as an

0:24:40.480,0:24:46.270
example mostly because seems like we are

0:24:42.730,0:24:48.850
this strongest really into this between

0:24:46.270,0:24:54.160
the clouds and the amplification of

0:24:48.850,0:24:56.470
things really you can go now and move in

0:24:54.160,0:24:59.350
a speed that simply wasn’t possible

0:24:56.470,0:25:02.260
maybe five years ago when we think about

0:24:59.350,0:25:05.140
this from a Productivity perspective and

0:25:02.260,0:25:07.600
we look at the the platforms and we look

0:25:05.140,0:25:10.330
at this debate between Android and iOS

0:25:07.600,0:25:12.910
and chrome and Windows and everything

0:25:10.330,0:25:16.500
else I think the best guidance we can

0:25:12.910,0:25:19.590
give anyone who’s looking at those is

0:25:16.500,0:25:22.630
decide what you need to accomplish

0:25:19.590,0:25:24.820
before you look at the technology before

0:25:22.630,0:25:26.770
you start going down those paths because

0:25:24.820,0:25:29.350
if you have an idea as to what your

0:25:26.770,0:25:32.590
objectives are then you can critically

0:25:29.350,0:25:34.390
evaluate the technologies and wind up in

0:25:32.590,0:25:36.790
the place that’s most likely to be

0:25:34.390,0:25:38.830
successful for you if you start looking

0:25:36.790,0:25:40.750
at the technologies first and say oh

0:25:38.830,0:25:42.900
that’s really cool that that does that

0:25:40.750,0:25:45.520
maybe that’s something I should do

0:25:42.900,0:25:47.170
you’re already going down the wrong path

0:25:45.520,0:25:48.700
because you’re not at that point

0:25:47.170,0:25:50.980
determining whether or not that meets

0:25:48.700,0:25:52.930
your objective so that would be my

0:25:50.980,0:25:54.370
recommendation to anybody think about

0:25:52.930,0:25:55.630
what you need to do first before you

0:25:54.370,0:25:57.940
start to think about how you’re going to

0:25:55.630,0:25:58.480
do it and you just heard the voice of

0:25:57.940,0:26:00.880
reason

0:25:58.480,0:26:04.510
instead of that he’s completely right

0:26:00.880,0:26:08.410
again okay the problem is from the geek

0:26:04.510,0:26:12.100
on my heart I will always cover oh I

0:26:08.410,0:26:14.590
went the wrong there’s a phrase about

0:26:12.100,0:26:16.600
that and it’s do as I say not as I do

0:26:14.590,0:26:21.160
because that is absolutely not what I do

0:26:16.600,0:26:25.120
with 90% of the time but yeah I’ll admit

0:26:21.160,0:26:29.950
it I think I had to learn learn the

0:26:25.120,0:26:32.730
lesson that art just gave the hard way

0:26:29.950,0:26:34.870
by trial and error and realizing that

0:26:32.730,0:26:37.870
because they didn’t have access that I

0:26:34.870,0:26:39.730
needed to figure out the simplest

0:26:37.870,0:26:40.790
solution and that was really the

0:26:39.730,0:26:42.650
business need

0:26:40.790,0:26:44.690
I needed and then then I thought about

0:26:42.650,0:26:46.760
started thinking about technology after

0:26:44.690,0:26:48.830
the fact but I was just like a ghost I

0:26:46.760,0:26:51.470
just love the technology at first until

0:26:48.830,0:26:53.450
it got me into trouble well this has

0:26:51.470,0:26:55.400
been a fantastic conversation guys I

0:26:53.450,0:26:57.650
think that you know from from a

0:26:55.400,0:27:01.280
Productivity perspective it’s gonna take

0:26:57.650,0:27:03.710
us all some deep thoughts some sort of

0:27:01.280,0:27:07.550
soul-searching when it comes to the

0:27:03.710,0:27:09.500
feature set the platform and all of the

0:27:07.550,0:27:11.480
other sort of components that come into

0:27:09.500,0:27:13.040
play and I consider peripherals

0:27:11.480,0:27:15.320
accessories those kinds of things as

0:27:13.040,0:27:17.570
being sort of a complement that’s

0:27:15.320,0:27:20.990
necessary you know sort of the magazine

0:27:17.570,0:27:23.240
store of what’s necessary for your

0:27:20.990,0:27:25.520
Arsenal to be productive and I think

0:27:23.240,0:27:26.780
that it takes some some deep thought it

0:27:25.520,0:27:29.090
takes some soul-searching when it comes

0:27:26.780,0:27:30.980
to which parts of the puzzle you’re

0:27:29.090,0:27:32.540
gonna put together in order to make your

0:27:30.980,0:27:34.130
productivity system all the different

0:27:32.540,0:27:36.080
tools and so this has been a great

0:27:34.130,0:27:37.820
conversation for productivity casts the

0:27:36.080,0:27:39.950
weekly show about all things personal

0:27:37.820,0:27:42.470
productivity thank you for being on the

0:27:39.950,0:27:45.560
show with me Augusto Pinaud art Gelwicks and

0:27:42.470,0:27:49.340
francis wade and here’s your productive

0:27:45.560,0:27:51.500
life thank you guys thank you that’s it

0:27:49.340,0:27:53.810
for this episode of productivity cast

0:27:51.500,0:27:56.630
the weekly show about all things

0:27:53.810,0:28:00.460
productivity with your hosts Ray Sidney-

0:27:56.630,0:28:00.460
Smith and Augusto pinaud

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