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“If the things we believe in are different than the things we do, there can be no true happiness.”
—Dana Telford
The ProductivityCast team tackles the concept of integrity and its relationship to your productivity system.
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The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey, PhD
The 8th Habit by Stephen Covey, PhD
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are you ready to manage your work and
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personal world better to live a more
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fulfilling productive life then you’ve
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come to the right place
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welcome to productivity cast the weekly
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show about all things productivity here
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are your hosts Ray Sidney-Smith and
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Augusto Pinaud
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hello again productivity enthusiasts
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this is productivity cast the weekly
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show about all things personal
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productivity I’m Ray Sidney-Smith and
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I’m joined here today with Augusto
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Pinaud and Francis Wade welcome guys
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good to be here good morning Ray’s great
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we have a fantastic show today we are
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going to be talking a little bit
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philosophically today not that we don’t
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philosophically talk on most episodes
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right but but today we’re gonna be
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talking about productivity and its
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relationship to integrity and what I
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wanted us to do is to start off with a
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discussion about how we actually define
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integrity because I think it’s actually
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very different from person to person in
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terms of what integrity is I think for
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me integrity means having a system that
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is complete so that nothing is missing
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that there are no elements that are out
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of place but I find with a lot of my
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clients and people that train is that
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their systems are are for the most part
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self developed or self created and
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somewhere in their teens they put
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together a bunch of habits practices and
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tools and they come into adulthood and
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sometimes in late adulthood never really
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having examined what they put together
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and as a result sometimes something is
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missing so for example I’m working with
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one client one trainee who told me that
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you know she was feeling really guilty
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because she couldn’t remember all of her
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tasks and I said well you probably
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outlive and outstrip the boundaries of
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your memory you probably need to use
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something totally different like writing
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it down or capturing it on a smartphone
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or using some recording device or
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something and she said oh I didn’t
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realize that she thought that she needed
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to use her memory so for her being all
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of integrity menu
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a system for capturing that couldn’t
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keep up with the demands on her life so
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for me integrity is having all of the
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elements in place and having a complete
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set that works for the individual that
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makes a lot of sense and I think a lot
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of people miss the idea that one can
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have their system and still have areas
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that need to improve and if you are in
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some way shape or form feeling pain in a
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part of your life then that means the
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system itself is potentially lacking
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integrity and and is something that can
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be worked on and we’ll talk about that
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later in this episode integrity is do
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what you said you were going to do when
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you said you were going to do it it
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sounds simple but it is of people with
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listening today Pro one of the hardest
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thing to do and when you’re going to
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talk about productivity systems and
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integrity conscious or not that is the
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reason that make people start looking
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for a better productivity system or for
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the first productivity system is the
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fact that they are saying they are going
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to accomplish they are going to do or
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they are going to deliver things that
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are not happening right now and they are
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not happening at the time they’re even
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offering them or they’re not happening
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at all and they need to match what is
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happening in their life with what they
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are saying it should be happening in
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their life
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now as Francis said with his person
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trying to remember everything the
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problem is not if she was forgetting or
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not forgetting and the problem is she
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knows out of her integrity or his
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integrity that he or she wasn’t doing
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what she was saying that she was going
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to do at the time that she was going to
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do and that is the reason most people
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look desperate into productivity is to
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be able to work with that integrity
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hello
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and to be able to be more effective on
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the send people is not looking to cross
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instead of ten items out of their least
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25 450 or more people is looking to
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match what they said they were going to
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do with what they are actually doing and
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that what they are trying to do in a
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more simpler way is try to match these
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or to bring integrity to the table
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and do what they are actually trying to
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are saying that they’re going to do I
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see integrity as an alignment of a
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complete system sort of the alignment
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and commitment to a complete system and
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I think that’s really important for
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people to truly be trusting of their
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system right because integrity increases
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trust both in an in an interpersonal
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perspective right if you if you believe
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someone lives with integrity you believe
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they live with some moral code some
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sense of ethics and therefore they are
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they have the sort of moral uprightness
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in personal productivity it’s really a
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relationship with yourself and others to
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getting things done and I believe it’s
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that that alignment and commitment to
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the systems that you’ve created that are
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really important in personal
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productivity so how does one integrate
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personal productivity systems into their
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life so that their there is this
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wholeness and this relationship that
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that seems to be right if you want to
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call it that versus wrong in your life
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my opinion is that most people don’t go
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past complaining so they don’t they
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don’t deal with themselves from the
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point of view that their integrity is
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important enough to stop complaining so
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they may see it they see the problem
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they see that for example that they
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promise to be there at 6:00 and it
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didn’t make it make it there at 6:00 and
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they give an excuse and that that for
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them is sufficient to cause the problem
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to
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that’s most people I think there’s a
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handful of people a few who are willing
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to say there’s something that is causing
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me to be late and it’s something to do
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with me most people don’t make that step
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and start to reflect and then do other
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steps like for example doing an
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evaluation of their behaviors in some
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kind of objective way to try and see how
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can I take my system to the next level
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so that I can have more integrity in all
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the ways that we’ve talked about so they
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they it doesn’t even occur to them as a
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problem it’s just a circumstance of life
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and everyone has circumstances that
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everyone has stuff happens that you
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can’t do anything about it and and
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that’s that’s where they ended their
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their sort of internal dialogue I think
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again once again the exceptional people
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deal with themselves at a higher
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standard and they say I’m not gonna
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continue to put up with the fact that
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I’m always late I’m going to rigorously
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try to figure out what the solution
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might be and that you know that that
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sends them to you know articles on the
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internet or buying books to purchasing
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apps to picking up a new device so to
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whatever it might the action might be
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but when someone has that problem it
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takes the exceptional person to some
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kind of search for solutions and it’s
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always an internal search it’s not a
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blame the world kind of think solution
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it has to do with the individual I
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I need to agree with a lot of what
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Francis has said sadly we leave on an
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instant gratification society where we
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are looking for the simplest and the
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fastest of the solution and integrity
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and productivity it’s not accept of that
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and people tend to spend more time
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looking for those instant solutions than
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spending the time working to find a
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solution and
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guilty of charge by the way I I wish to
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say that in everything that caused my
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realm I first looked for the more
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complex solution and then I look for the
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simple one but it Oh for the instant one
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but the reality is we all try to find
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some time or the other the simple
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solution but as Francis said there is
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only a small percentage of people who
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after that initial search fail then go
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to the next step and look for the other
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difficult path years ago we’re talking
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about but we are now going where I’m
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going to be celebrating the 10th
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anniversary of this next year I was I
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weight around 400 pounds for the people
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who’s not in the u.s. it’s a little bit
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over 200 kilograms and and I look for
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all the solutions to that I tried many
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things at the moment I decided that I
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was going to do something about it and
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when everything or all those solutions
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fail me then was the moment that I
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needed to look and fit and make the hard
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call on the hard decision or bring
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integrity to the table this was a
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problem I was going to look into
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regardless how painful it was or it was
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a problem that I was going to continue
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ignoring ok today I am I weighed less
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than 50% of that and I’m still working
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on it but it was a plan that is easy to
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say but if I said when I’m coming to
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celebrate my 10th year anniversary with
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that and some of these things required
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you to go into this more complex and
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long and painful process in order to get
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it productivity sadly is one of those
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you can kick you can complain you can
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cry all that you want but the problem is
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you can fool most people most of the
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time you can say
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a lot of people a lot of the time but
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you cannot fool everybody all the time
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and especially you cannot fool yourself
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you can set Oh immaculate integrity and
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look how great is my system and most
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people will never know but the reality
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is you will know 24/7
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if in fact your system is working or is
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not working if you are acting on
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integrity or you are not acting on
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integrity that element make it critical
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for when you we talk about personal
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productivity because the problem is if
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you don’t look at personal productivity
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and the relationship with integrity and
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how that relationship affect your life
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you will not know how the negative
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affects crowd and really affect or in
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fact everything on a negative point you
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bring up a lot of really interesting
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points Augusto and and Francis when you
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talk about integrity I tend to lend
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toward dr. Steven Covey the late dr.
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Covey’s work when it comes to to the
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discussion of integrity since he really
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did focus on it so much in his works the
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seven Habits of Highly Effective People
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as well as the eighth habit for those
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who don’t know the seven Habits by heart
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like I do have it number four talks
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about think win-win and this idea
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encompasses three vital character traits
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it really encourages needs it’s vital
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it needs integrity maturity and
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abundance mentality and in terms of
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integrity I’ll just quote dr. Covey in
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in how he defines integrity here
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he says honesty is telling the truth in
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other words conforming our words to
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reality integrity is conforming reality
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to our words in other words keeping
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promises and fulfilling expectations
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this requires an integrated character a
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oneness primarily with self but also
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with life so I think
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Cuffy covers something really important
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there that combines what your both are
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talking about here and is really
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important to personal productivity
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systems I really do believe that in
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order for you to be highly productive
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for you to really overcome many of
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life’s obstacles whether they be health
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related or interpersonal which i think
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is probably close related to your health
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and all of the other things
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technological technical and otherwise I
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think it’s really important for you to
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be able to identify problems have that
0:13:52.160,0:13:56.839
self-awareness that you talked about
0:13:53.269,0:14:01.069
Francis and then really start to think
0:13:56.839,0:14:03.560
about how the system is serving you as
0:14:01.069,0:14:06.350
opposed to you serving the system so
0:14:03.560,0:14:08.540
very dissimilar to leadership or at
0:14:06.350,0:14:10.040
least some leadership styles today in
0:14:08.540,0:14:11.480
management we talk about servant
0:14:10.040,0:14:14.149
leadership this idea that you’re
0:14:11.480,0:14:16.699
supposed to be supporting your staff and
0:14:14.149,0:14:18.589
the people who report to you in and and
0:14:16.699,0:14:21.319
your community in order to be able to
0:14:18.589,0:14:23.029
truly lead it I think it’s very
0:14:21.319,0:14:26.389
different for personal productivity I
0:14:23.029,0:14:28.639
think it’s because your system should be
0:14:26.389,0:14:30.529
continually supporting you you need to
0:14:28.639,0:14:33.589
maintain the system and I think that’s a
0:14:30.529,0:14:36.230
part of integrity but you really do need
0:14:33.589,0:14:38.709
to command your system and that means
0:14:36.230,0:14:41.300
identifying where there are potential
0:14:38.709,0:14:43.790
shortfalls in the system and then
0:14:41.300,0:14:46.129
shoring those up and in doing that
0:14:43.790,0:14:48.620
difficult work of saying okay well I
0:14:46.129,0:14:51.259
don’t have these skills do I need to
0:14:48.620,0:14:55.519
develop these skills and many times
0:14:51.259,0:14:59.149
people are unwilling to take the time to
0:14:55.519,0:15:01.250
look at what’s wrong and then and think
0:14:59.149,0:15:03.410
of it from a solutions perspective from
0:15:01.250,0:15:05.779
what’s a what’s an alternative to this
0:15:03.410,0:15:10.689
that’s positive and constructive as
0:15:05.779,0:15:13.339
opposed to I’m bad I’m stupid I’m
0:15:10.689,0:15:15.439
negative adjectives you just fill in the
0:15:13.339,0:15:17.930
blank of the negative adjectives and
0:15:15.439,0:15:20.089
nouns that we call ourselves and and I
0:15:17.930,0:15:23.720
think that negative self speak actually
0:15:20.089,0:15:27.290
starts to impede on one’s integrity it
0:15:23.720,0:15:29.929
starts to ruin it so one you need to you
0:15:27.290,0:15:32.640
need to lean into the positive side of
0:15:29.929,0:15:34.170
your productive skills
0:15:32.640,0:15:36.030
and then you need to actually do those
0:15:34.170,0:15:38.220
things right so sort of two parts there
0:15:36.030,0:15:40.830
right you have to this is not delusional
0:15:38.220,0:15:44.250
by the way I frequently talked to people
0:15:40.830,0:15:47.010
who well I don’t feel positive or I
0:15:44.250,0:15:49.530
don’t feel productive about this or that
0:15:47.010,0:15:51.420
well that’s okay it’s understandable and
0:15:49.530,0:15:53.190
even to the effect that some people say
0:15:51.420,0:15:54.270
well it’s not realistic well the reality
0:15:53.190,0:15:55.530
is is that the world has enough
0:15:54.270,0:15:58.200
negativity in it
0:15:55.530,0:16:00.150
you don’t need to add to it so my my
0:15:58.200,0:16:02.310
suggestion to everyone is just to lean
0:16:00.150,0:16:04.020
into the productive side as if some
0:16:02.310,0:16:05.970
therapists would tell you just lean into
0:16:04.020,0:16:07.650
the emotion but I would lean into the
0:16:05.970,0:16:09.510
positive side of things versus the
0:16:07.650,0:16:12.120
negative and I think that starts to open
0:16:09.510,0:16:14.820
up the opportunity for solutions and
0:16:12.120,0:16:17.340
then your ability to then say I’m going
0:16:14.820,0:16:19.230
to go do those things now I wanted to
0:16:17.340,0:16:22.320
move us along in the conversation in
0:16:19.230,0:16:26.640
terms of how we can how we can raise the
0:16:22.320,0:16:29.700
bar on integrity in our own productivity
0:16:26.640,0:16:34.260
systems and have sort of a thoughtful
0:16:29.700,0:16:36.810
discussion about how we all are doing in
0:16:34.260,0:16:39.570
our productivity systems and ways in
0:16:36.810,0:16:42.600
which we can potentially improve that
0:16:39.570,0:16:45.390
integrity that wholeness my current area
0:16:42.600,0:16:48.330
of productivity that I’m really trying
0:16:45.390,0:16:51.180
to that I’m trying to clean up right now
0:16:48.330,0:16:54.690
is that I frequently talk about this
0:16:51.180,0:16:58.890
concept of integration across digital
0:16:54.690,0:17:00.870
tools and today I use as we’ve talked
0:16:58.890,0:17:03.870
about before many different platforms on
0:17:00.870,0:17:07.949
a daily basis and across my entire
0:17:03.870,0:17:10.949
system I believe in having a uniform set
0:17:07.949,0:17:14.370
of categories buckets for things things
0:17:10.949,0:17:16.140
I call life categories and I really
0:17:14.370,0:17:18.000
think that level of integrity in your
0:17:16.140,0:17:20.550
system does a whole bunch of really
0:17:18.000,0:17:24.329
positive things so let’s just take a
0:17:20.550,0:17:26.880
very very basic basic example of home
0:17:24.329,0:17:30.330
health and work right just three very
0:17:26.880,0:17:33.450
basic categories if you had a system
0:17:30.330,0:17:37.470
whereby you had three calendars home
0:17:33.450,0:17:40.140
work health and you had three Dropbox
0:17:37.470,0:17:42.870
folders that were home health work and
0:17:40.140,0:17:46.410
if you had three Evernote notebooks
0:17:42.870,0:17:47.880
called home health work and then you had
0:17:46.410,0:17:49.890
your email and your email had three
0:17:47.880,0:17:52.770
folders home health work you see the
0:17:49.890,0:17:56.430
point that all of a sudden if you are
0:17:52.770,0:17:58.800
looking for something you now know there
0:17:56.430,0:18:01.290
are only three buckets in which you need
0:17:58.800,0:18:03.930
to really look for things in those very
0:18:01.290,0:18:07.230
broad categories and it also allows you
0:18:03.930,0:18:09.240
to be able to file faster that is when
0:18:07.230,0:18:10.740
something comes in if you need to deal
0:18:09.240,0:18:12.390
with it later you can anchor that in
0:18:10.740,0:18:14.160
your next action system or your task
0:18:12.390,0:18:17.190
list or whatever you might call it and
0:18:14.160,0:18:20.400
and then immediately put it into home
0:18:17.190,0:18:23.010
work or health and you don’t worry about
0:18:20.400,0:18:25.290
losing it there’s a sense of trust that
0:18:23.010,0:18:29.070
you now have to the integrity of your
0:18:25.290,0:18:31.320
system by being able to do so and I tell
0:18:29.070,0:18:34.560
you all of that to say that I am in a
0:18:31.320,0:18:37.650
massive rework of how I’m doing my own
0:18:34.560,0:18:39.810
system in that way that is renaming
0:18:37.650,0:18:41.940
things and recreating things so that
0:18:39.810,0:18:44.580
there is a little stronger integrity of
0:18:41.940,0:18:47.190
my action systems related to my
0:18:44.580,0:18:49.560
reference systems I use Evernote as a
0:18:47.190,0:18:51.930
reference system primarily and so I
0:18:49.560,0:18:54.990
really need to make sure that every note
0:18:51.930,0:18:58.170
matches my my task management system my
0:18:54.990,0:19:01.890
task manager and I felt like that really
0:18:58.170,0:19:03.360
wasn’t as well in tune and so that’s
0:19:01.890,0:19:06.660
where I’m working on it right now today
0:19:03.360,0:19:09.060
and I hope that by doing so I’ll be able
0:19:06.660,0:19:11.790
to get my hands on things faster and
0:19:09.060,0:19:14.220
I’ll also be able to get more things
0:19:11.790,0:19:16.680
done through the efficiencies that I’ll
0:19:14.220,0:19:18.990
be creating in making sure that my life
0:19:16.680,0:19:21.000
categories across the system are are
0:19:18.990,0:19:23.490
integrated well one thing I’ve been
0:19:21.000,0:19:25.200
struggling with recently it had a good
0:19:23.490,0:19:28.410
outcome because it helped me to identify
0:19:25.200,0:19:30.690
that it was an area that I could
0:19:28.410,0:19:33.150
articulate for my customers or my
0:19:30.690,0:19:35.730
readers that would make sense and what
0:19:33.150,0:19:37.500
it is is I noticed that in my schedule
0:19:35.730,0:19:39.330
there was often times when I would as
0:19:37.500,0:19:41.190
someone who more or less schedule
0:19:39.330,0:19:43.890
schedule everything their attempts when
0:19:41.190,0:19:47.310
I would depart from my schedule and not
0:19:43.890,0:19:49.860
account for it for a whole day or a
0:19:47.310,0:19:52.500
couple of days I just be way off my
0:19:49.860,0:19:52.980
calendar we’re operating outside of my
0:19:52.500,0:19:55.650
plan
0:19:52.980,0:19:57.330
without even referencing it now I have
0:19:55.650,0:19:59.580
the tools to be able to recover from it
0:19:57.330,0:20:00.180
in the form of sceptile which is an auto
0:19:59.580,0:20:04.180
sketch
0:20:00.180,0:20:06.940
but I wouldn’t have the discipline to go
0:20:04.180,0:20:09.220
back into sceptile and run it again to
0:20:06.940,0:20:11.350
reschedule my calendar whenever I
0:20:09.220,0:20:14.620
discovered I was off calendar which is I
0:20:11.350,0:20:18.790
was away from my plan so I tried setting
0:20:14.620,0:20:20.190
up a game to measure the times different
0:20:18.790,0:20:23.250
times in the day when I would be on
0:20:20.190,0:20:26.830
calendar versus off it would actually
0:20:23.250,0:20:28.630
prompt me to report whether I was on or
0:20:26.830,0:20:32.290
off at that particular time was a random
0:20:28.630,0:20:34.390
a random multiplication that helped but
0:20:32.290,0:20:36.190
as soon as the game finished I went back
0:20:34.390,0:20:39.040
into my old behaviors and that’s where I
0:20:36.190,0:20:41.710
am right now so III don’t have a
0:20:39.040,0:20:43.120
solution it’s a sort of an invented
0:20:41.710,0:20:45.130
problem because I haven’t never seen
0:20:43.120,0:20:48.820
anyone mentioned this particular issue
0:20:45.130,0:20:51.190
in their daily setup but it’s one that
0:20:48.820,0:20:53.950
I’m I want to fix but what came out of
0:20:51.190,0:20:56.410
it is noticing that there’s a super
0:20:53.950,0:20:59.290
power that people need to develop a
0:20:56.410,0:21:02.710
couple of them one is to detect when
0:20:59.290,0:21:06.250
their system is about to break so this
0:21:02.710,0:21:07.690
is this is beyond beyond just noticing
0:21:06.250,0:21:10.180
that you’re having a major problem that
0:21:07.690,0:21:12.850
you’re always late for example but it’s
0:21:10.180,0:21:15.400
noticing that there are some subtle
0:21:12.850,0:21:18.690
subtle signs that your time management
0:21:15.400,0:21:21.880
system is a is about to go bust and
0:21:18.690,0:21:23.500
notice what there was those sort of
0:21:21.880,0:21:26.310
signs happen to be so that’s the first
0:21:23.500,0:21:29.860
part the second part is taking those
0:21:26.310,0:21:33.670
weak signals and then converting them
0:21:29.860,0:21:35.500
into in-depth diagnosis kind of a like a
0:21:33.670,0:21:39.040
doctor hosts will do you know from the
0:21:35.500,0:21:40.960
TV show and then the third part is if
0:21:39.040,0:21:42.460
you’re able to do a good diagnosis
0:21:40.960,0:21:45.460
figure out what to implement and
0:21:42.460,0:21:47.380
implement it effectively so I recently
0:21:45.460,0:21:50.830
called them superpowers you know in a
0:21:47.380,0:21:55.060
poster I just did because they’re so so
0:21:50.830,0:21:56.950
much a part of everyone’s life but I’ve
0:21:55.060,0:21:59.200
never heard them quite said that way
0:21:56.950,0:22:03.100
that we need to develop these kind of
0:21:59.200,0:22:06.010
rare skills so that we stay far out of
0:22:03.100,0:22:08.170
trouble as opposed to figure out how to
0:22:06.010,0:22:10.660
dig ourselves out of trouble it’s kind
0:22:08.170,0:22:11.950
of like problem prevention in a way but
0:22:10.660,0:22:13.790
that came from the problem I’m having
0:22:11.950,0:22:18.020
the challenge I’m having right now
0:22:13.790,0:22:21.080
on schedule and that goes back to Q what
0:22:18.020,0:22:24.110
I was saying to integrity now on if I
0:22:21.080,0:22:26.420
tidy up this but very said honestly has
0:22:24.110,0:22:30.110
been able to honestly it’s been able to
0:22:26.420,0:22:32.390
admit that you go in a certain way out
0:22:30.110,0:22:35.960
of integrity would you stop flow in your
0:22:32.390,0:22:38.240
calendar and integrity is knowing that
0:22:35.960,0:22:40.310
you are not doing that and figured it
0:22:38.240,0:22:44.000
out that okay I need to go back to do
0:22:40.310,0:22:47.360
what I was doing but that’s that’s one
0:22:44.000,0:22:50.810
second is it’s important to mention that
0:22:47.360,0:22:54.230
one of the difficult issues with
0:22:50.810,0:22:59.390
integrity and they call that the bar so
0:22:54.230,0:23:01.520
everybody has amar and that said to you
0:22:59.390,0:23:03.140
know above this line and below this line
0:23:01.520,0:23:06.020
you are fine when you’re above the line
0:23:03.140,0:23:10.250
you’re not good with your below the line
0:23:06.020,0:23:12.410
so if if you think on what you just said
0:23:10.250,0:23:14.600
you know your line is sleep on the
0:23:12.410,0:23:18.590
calendar to a certain extent when you
0:23:14.600,0:23:21.500
are above that line then you’re fine you
0:23:18.590,0:23:23.330
are living into what you are supposed to
0:23:21.500,0:23:26.720
do you are doing the things they are
0:23:23.330,0:23:30.350
supposed to do same here the problem is
0:23:26.720,0:23:33.230
sometimes we don’t notice that we start
0:23:30.350,0:23:35.750
lowering that bar instead of raising
0:23:33.230,0:23:38.990
that bar problem is if you start
0:23:35.750,0:23:41.690
lowering the bar conscious or not a most
0:23:38.990,0:23:44.030
of the time it’s not you start also
0:23:41.690,0:23:46.010
lowering the bar on other areas when you
0:23:44.030,0:23:49.340
say you know what I have decided that
0:23:46.010,0:23:52.240
this work life is too stressful for me
0:23:49.340,0:23:56.390
and I am NOT going to work hard anymore
0:23:52.240,0:23:58.570
and I’m going to instead of try to you
0:23:56.390,0:24:01.850
know reach and girl I’m going to be
0:23:58.570,0:24:04.040
whatever is automatically lower in the
0:24:01.850,0:24:06.440
bar you are saying I’m not going to push
0:24:04.040,0:24:08.690
I’m not trying to improve and what you
0:24:06.440,0:24:11.470
may notice or not notice immediately
0:24:08.690,0:24:14.690
we’ve asked you start letting the bar
0:24:11.470,0:24:17.840
going down you may think it’s only
0:24:14.690,0:24:20.870
happen on your calendar but it will
0:24:17.840,0:24:23.300
start happening and influence many other
0:24:20.870,0:24:26.150
different bars that you have on your
0:24:23.300,0:24:27.470
life and everything will start coming
0:24:26.150,0:24:30.950
down and
0:24:27.470,0:24:34.730
and down there is an author and that it
0:24:30.950,0:24:38.629
says whatever is not growing is time and
0:24:34.730,0:24:42.529
the fact with this proverbial bar is
0:24:38.629,0:24:46.429
exactly the same thing you can go and I
0:24:42.529,0:24:48.740
wish to tell you after I don’t know how
0:24:46.429,0:24:51.919
many years reading and writing and
0:24:48.740,0:24:55.159
teaching productivity that I finally
0:24:51.919,0:24:57.769
reach the proverbial place and then my
0:24:55.159,0:24:59.000
bar is said and it will not need to be
0:24:57.769,0:25:00.980
move anymore
0:24:59.000,0:25:05.690
but what I have learned over the years
0:25:00.980,0:25:09.500
in personal productivity is that the
0:25:05.690,0:25:13.750
more you raise the bar the more you need
0:25:09.500,0:25:17.720
to raise the bar and it’s difficult
0:25:13.750,0:25:20.539
every time you need to raise that bar as
0:25:17.720,0:25:22.070
I explained and you need to revamp your
0:25:20.539,0:25:25.129
system and you need to rework your
0:25:22.070,0:25:28.629
system it is difficult and it is a
0:25:25.129,0:25:31.340
struggle doesn’t matter how effective
0:25:28.629,0:25:34.549
efficient and how much integrity your
0:25:31.340,0:25:39.519
current system has there is a moment
0:25:34.549,0:25:43.070
when that will not be enough anymore
0:25:39.519,0:25:45.559
well now you want to move to the next
0:25:43.070,0:25:49.250
place and in order to move to the next
0:25:45.559,0:25:52.009
place that assumption of integrity and
0:25:49.250,0:25:56.600
that proverbial bar need to be raised
0:25:52.009,0:25:59.299
again and if you choose not to and
0:25:56.600,0:26:01.669
that’s always a choice what’s going to
0:25:59.299,0:26:04.549
happen is that bar is going to start
0:26:01.669,0:26:08.600
coming down until you hit rock bottom
0:26:04.549,0:26:10.820
and Rock button can be the last time you
0:26:08.600,0:26:13.279
said or the private level you set the
0:26:10.820,0:26:15.679
bar or maybe three or four levels below
0:26:13.279,0:26:17.840
that I don’t know it will depend from
0:26:15.679,0:26:21.230
people to people but what I can assure
0:26:17.840,0:26:24.350
you is if you start letting the bar
0:26:21.230,0:26:26.629
going down the bar is not going down on
0:26:24.350,0:26:28.730
one area it’s not like oh well you know
0:26:26.629,0:26:33.049
I don’t follow the calendar anymore um I
0:26:28.730,0:26:35.840
work three will well I promise you that
0:26:33.049,0:26:38.539
your life is going to start being
0:26:35.840,0:26:40.770
influenced by those things it may be the
0:26:38.539,0:26:43.320
calendar and sooner now
0:26:40.770,0:26:45.840
areas of your life are also going to be
0:26:43.320,0:26:50.610
suffering from that lack of integrity
0:26:45.840,0:26:55.350
because the fact is that you are a one
0:26:50.610,0:26:58.560
person or one self and or you are or you
0:26:55.350,0:27:01.320
play with integrity or you do not play
0:26:58.560,0:27:04.650
with integrity you may have different
0:27:01.320,0:27:08.190
levels of integrity from different areas
0:27:04.650,0:27:12.720
of your life but you play with integrity
0:27:08.190,0:27:14.940
or you do not play with integrity just
0:27:12.720,0:27:18.570
in in summary I think it’s really
0:27:14.940,0:27:22.230
important for people to not lose heart
0:27:18.570,0:27:24.330
when you realize that your system may
0:27:22.230,0:27:26.820
not be as integral and that you may not
0:27:24.330,0:27:30.120
be living with the standard of integrity
0:27:26.820,0:27:32.550
that you might feel you should because
0:27:30.120,0:27:36.000
shoulds woods kids once those are all
0:27:32.550,0:27:38.600
not reality okay and the the the
0:27:36.000,0:27:42.090
circumstances what are you right now and
0:27:38.600,0:27:45.750
you either change it or you don’t
0:27:42.090,0:27:47.580
okay and thinking negatively about the
0:27:45.750,0:27:50.130
situation is not necessarily gonna bring
0:27:47.580,0:27:52.560
you a lot of positive movement it’s not
0:27:50.130,0:27:54.060
going to motivate you typically and I
0:27:52.560,0:27:57.360
and I tend to think that fear-based
0:27:54.060,0:27:59.520
motivations are attend not to allow for
0:27:57.360,0:28:02.460
lasting growth sort of I’m a positive
0:27:59.520,0:28:03.780
behaviorist in that sense so punishment
0:28:02.460,0:28:06.600
I don’t believe are though the ways
0:28:03.780,0:28:09.390
forward to a greater integrity with your
0:28:06.600,0:28:11.820
personal productivity system so I highly
0:28:09.390,0:28:14.430
encourage people to think positively
0:28:11.820,0:28:17.850
about it even when you first start out
0:28:14.430,0:28:20.430
with a negative a negative sense of the
0:28:17.850,0:28:21.840
system that is your your having negative
0:28:20.430,0:28:24.750
consequences you’re not getting things
0:28:21.840,0:28:26.480
done and you need to or want to well
0:28:24.750,0:28:29.640
that’s great now you can at least
0:28:26.480,0:28:31.710
recognize that but now look at it from
0:28:29.640,0:28:34.260
as I said before a positive and
0:28:31.710,0:28:36.570
constructive perspective lean into the
0:28:34.260,0:28:38.430
positive and constructive and I think
0:28:36.570,0:28:41.610
that you can then start to clean up the
0:28:38.430,0:28:44.610
system and look for gaps typically where
0:28:41.610,0:28:47.730
I see lack of integrity with clients is
0:28:44.610,0:28:50.760
them missing parts of their world that
0:28:47.730,0:28:52.999
need a system so that they look at say
0:28:50.760,0:28:55.759
they have a bunch of magazines that they
0:28:52.999,0:28:57.469
to read digital or paper and so they
0:28:55.759,0:28:59.359
either see the pile or they have a list
0:28:57.469,0:29:02.059
of magazines that they want to read or
0:28:59.359,0:29:04.669
list of books or list of articles where
0:29:02.059,0:29:08.089
they have read it later applications
0:29:04.669,0:29:10.069
like pocket or Instapaper or like for me
0:29:08.089,0:29:14.299
I have that in Evernote and it’s just a
0:29:10.069,0:29:16.189
you know a big pile of stuff right
0:29:14.299,0:29:19.129
things that want they need to meet or
0:29:16.189,0:29:20.959
want to do and it hasn’t been done and
0:29:19.129,0:29:23.089
that gives them that sense of overwhelm
0:29:20.959,0:29:24.529
and then feeling a lack of integrity to
0:29:23.089,0:29:25.999
their system they’re not maintaining
0:29:24.529,0:29:28.759
their system in a way in which they said
0:29:25.999,0:29:31.279
they would well that’s fine just don’t
0:29:28.759,0:29:33.469
don’t harp on the on the fact that you
0:29:31.279,0:29:35.509
know you’re not doing it really focus
0:29:33.469,0:29:37.759
that energy more productively and
0:29:35.509,0:29:39.679
constructively on doing something about
0:29:37.759,0:29:43.099
it which is are you gonna declare
0:29:39.679,0:29:45.289
bankruptcy on your the pile that exists
0:29:43.099,0:29:47.569
already or are you gonna process are you
0:29:45.289,0:29:50.089
gonna take today’s yesterday’s and the
0:29:47.569,0:29:53.269
oldest statement days materials and read
0:29:50.089,0:29:55.489
those and then tomorrow do today’s
0:29:53.269,0:29:57.709
anything you didn’t catch yesterday and
0:29:55.489,0:29:59.989
the oldest days material and you’ll be
0:29:57.709,0:30:02.779
surprised over time how quickly you can
0:29:59.989,0:30:05.509
regain integrity through maintenance
0:30:02.779,0:30:07.819
then you can through all the negative
0:30:05.509,0:30:10.129
thinking in the world okay so I really
0:30:07.819,0:30:11.209
hope that people can create greater
0:30:10.129,0:30:13.339
integrity and their personal
0:30:11.209,0:30:17.029
productivity systems through positive
0:30:13.339,0:30:18.709
constructive thinking using a it’s
0:30:17.029,0:30:23.149
better to improve your integrity when
0:30:18.709,0:30:25.189
you are in a positive space because you
0:30:23.149,0:30:26.959
must improve it it’s it’s just it’s only
0:30:25.189,0:30:29.359
a question of are you gonna do it when
0:30:26.959,0:30:33.799
you’re miserable or are you gonna do it
0:30:29.359,0:30:36.709
when you’re empowered you must do it
0:30:33.799,0:30:40.779
it’s much easier to do if you’re in the
0:30:36.709,0:30:43.249
latter if you’re present and you’re
0:30:40.779,0:30:44.269
confident or you have some momentum
0:30:43.249,0:30:46.549
behind you
0:30:44.269,0:30:49.879
you know inevitably that’s not what we
0:30:46.549,0:30:52.069
do but that is the best time to start to
0:30:49.879,0:30:54.319
deal with yourself and deal with all of
0:30:52.069,0:30:56.029
your different areas of your life at one
0:30:54.319,0:30:58.819
point I remember finished completing a
0:30:56.029,0:31:00.499
100 point checklist for integrity and it
0:30:58.819,0:31:02.119
was very very very useful it’s not a
0:31:00.499,0:31:04.099
really good time in my life also so
0:31:02.119,0:31:06.090
that’s that out on the line which you
0:31:04.099,0:31:10.170
just said and what Augusto said
0:31:06.090,0:31:12.930
I think we are in a weird agreement that
0:31:10.170,0:31:15.090
and I love that you can do it when you
0:31:12.930,0:31:18.330
are empowered when you can wait until
0:31:15.090,0:31:18.990
you are defeated but you are going to do
0:31:18.330,0:31:20.730
it anyway
0:31:18.990,0:31:23.390
or most people will need to do it
0:31:20.730,0:31:26.520
anyways going back to the beginning of
0:31:23.390,0:31:29.700
of our cast not only you are going to
0:31:26.520,0:31:33.210
need to do it it’s a five you can choose
0:31:29.700,0:31:36.120
not to do it and that is a five I mean I
0:31:33.210,0:31:38.040
have suddently most of the people who
0:31:36.120,0:31:40.860
will choose not to do it or not
0:31:38.040,0:31:43.140
listening to this if you are probably
0:31:40.860,0:31:45.990
listening to this is because you think
0:31:43.140,0:31:48.210
or you are doing something about it or
0:31:45.990,0:31:51.000
you need to do something about it or you
0:31:48.210,0:31:54.060
have done it already in the past and the
0:31:51.000,0:31:56.130
second and last thing I want to say is
0:31:54.060,0:32:01.980
that it’s important and write mention
0:31:56.130,0:32:05.520
this whatever time it took you to get to
0:32:01.980,0:32:08.280
the place you are it’s going to take you
0:32:05.520,0:32:12.420
double to get to the place you want to
0:32:08.280,0:32:16.890
go that is really really important to
0:32:12.420,0:32:19.950
remember because people lost those
0:32:16.890,0:32:21.870
tracks you know if I’ve Frances put up
0:32:19.950,0:32:24.990
an example where I go a couple of days
0:32:21.870,0:32:28.800
and I love struggle my column hey I have
0:32:24.990,0:32:30.960
done that okay or I get a fire you know
0:32:28.800,0:32:33.270
a week that I just fighting fire – fire
0:32:30.960,0:32:35.880
– fire – fire – fire and come Thursday
0:32:33.270,0:32:39.780
and I have not even opened my system
0:32:35.880,0:32:43.530
those happen but remember that when you
0:32:39.780,0:32:46.230
get to that point in order to get back
0:32:43.530,0:32:48.900
to where you want is going to take you
0:32:46.230,0:32:51.390
double of the time in other words it
0:32:48.900,0:32:53.610
took us four days to get to that level
0:32:51.390,0:32:55.950
of couch is not going to take you four
0:32:53.610,0:32:57.690
hours to get out of there it’s probably
0:32:55.950,0:33:00.990
going to take a good eight because you
0:32:57.690,0:33:03.900
will not be able to stop everything in
0:33:00.990,0:33:06.110
order to get out of it one of the most
0:33:03.900,0:33:09.420
foolish things we tend to think
0:33:06.110,0:33:12.390
Confessional productivity is tomorrow I
0:33:09.420,0:33:14.970
will have more time now tomorrow you
0:33:12.390,0:33:16.470
will have less time that’s a fact
0:33:14.970,0:33:18.300
because you are going to need to do
0:33:16.470,0:33:20.010
everything that you are green today but
0:33:18.300,0:33:22.320
every plus
0:33:20.010,0:33:26.070
everything that is just showing up so
0:33:22.320,0:33:28.860
remember when you get to that point in
0:33:26.070,0:33:32.100
order to get out it’s going to take you
0:33:28.860,0:33:35.390
double of the time you get there and the
0:33:32.100,0:33:38.280
reason I said that I mean force that is
0:33:35.390,0:33:41.100
because it’s important to remember said
0:33:38.280,0:33:42.720
you are kind with yourself because it
0:33:41.100,0:33:45.900
will not do any good
0:33:42.720,0:33:48.300
after did you go for days without
0:33:45.900,0:33:50.850
checking everything out of track and you
0:33:48.300,0:33:53.670
get to that place I spend the next eight
0:33:50.850,0:33:55.950
or nine telling yourself and remind me
0:33:53.670,0:33:57.630
yourself how behind you are hey you are
0:33:55.950,0:34:00.780
behind that’s a fact
0:33:57.630,0:34:02.640
move on now let’s plan to get out that’s
0:34:00.780,0:34:05.100
a perfect note for us to end this
0:34:02.640,0:34:06.780
episode of productivity casts the weekly
0:34:05.100,0:34:08.790
show about all things personal
0:34:06.780,0:34:09.990
productivity thank you guys for joining
0:34:08.790,0:34:14.100
me here on the show
0:34:09.990,0:34:16.320
welcome thank you very much that’s it
0:34:14.100,0:34:18.600
for this episode of productivity cast
0:34:16.320,0:34:21.419
the weekly show about all things
0:34:18.600,0:34:25.250
productivity with your hosts Ray Sidney-
0:34:21.419,0:34:25.250
Smith and Augusto Pinaud
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