004 The Future of Google’s Android and your Productivity - ProductivityCast

004 The Future of Google’s Android and your Productivity – ProductivityCast

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After our discussion on “Second Screen Productivity” (Episode 003), Augusto and Ray were discussing off-mic about the future of Google’s Android and its proliferation around the globe on most mobile devices in use today. We decided to have a high-level discussion (let’s plainly call it what it is, pontificating) about the current state of Google’s mobile operating system and how its changes (along with other operating systems) affect users’ productivity.

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In this Cast

Ray Sidney-Smith

Augusto Pinaud

Show Notes

Resources we mention, including links to them will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context.

Android OS

ChromeOS / Chromium OS

ChromeBit (on Amazon)

G Suite for Education (a/k/a Google for Education)

Chromebook (List of Android App-Supported devices, including non-touchscreen)

Chromebox

Universal Windows Platform (UWP)

Lenovo Yoga Book

Free Software

Samsung DeX Dock (turn your Samsung Galaxy S8 phone into a desktop computer)

#iPadOnly

Internet of Things

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are you ready to manage your work and

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personal world better to live a more

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fulfilling productive life then you’ve

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come to the right place

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welcome to productivity cast the weekly

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show about all things productivity here

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are your hosts Ray Sidney-Smith and

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Augusto Pinaud welcome everybody to

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another episode of productivity cast the

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weekly show about all things personal

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productivity

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I’m your host Ray Sidney-Smith and I’m

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here with Augusto Pinaud good

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morning we’re gonna kick into this show

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with an interesting topic I think or at

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least I believe it was Augusto and I both

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believe this is an interesting topic

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because we decided to talk about it

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and so the the mixing and sort of

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interesting current situation with

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regard to Google’s operating systems

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those of you out there who are in the

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know you know what I’m talking about for

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those of you who don’t know Google has

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basically they have several operating

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systems that they’re currently in

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development with and you know the most

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popularly Android the Google owned

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operating system they’ve owned for

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several for many years now and it runs

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you know most of the phones in the world

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and and then there is Google’s Chrome OS

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and Chrome OS is the operating system

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that runs the Chromebooks the laptops as

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well as the little mini you know devices

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that they have and they have these these

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things that are we’re going to come out

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call the chrome sticks or whatever they

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were called but they were basically

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little they look like a you know an

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Amazon fire stick or basically a really

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big thumb drive and you’d stick it into

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a monitor and it would turn it into a

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computer and they plan on you know

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obviously putting the Chrome OS on many

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other devices and so that’s Chrome OS

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and of course there have been many media

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leaks about this idea of Google

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currently in development of a new

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operating system and so we wanted to

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talk about what that really meant and

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what would the what the future of

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potentially an Android Chrome OS merge

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or

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really where the future of androids

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operating systems go and that really has

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a lot of effect on our personal

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productivity as we said in the last

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episode because you know you have to

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decide on what you’re gonna learn and

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how much you’re gonna utilize your

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systems and when you have multiple

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operating systems that can sometimes be

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a drag on the system so of these two you

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you have brought up the topic originally

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and so I’m curious about what your

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initial thoughts were about this as the

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people as ever you know find me before

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this episode knows I been an iPad only

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for many years now and actually from

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2011 and one of the arguments I’ve been

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making about high but only is that for

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most people they don’t need are really

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or what we know as a full computer okay

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most people really what they need is a

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good browser and and a couple of basic

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things and cost wise you know the cost

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of a machine has really go significantly

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down and you can keep a much better

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machine than your old PC that will do

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everything and more of what you need

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getting a different solution you know in

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my case I pick iOS

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I like iOS but if you pick iOS you know

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Android will work you know chrome will

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work and now that they are both you know

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somehow happily merging it’s going to

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end up with a you know is a powerful

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marriage of those two and for many

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people people continue thinking oh well

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it is if it’s going to be for work or

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I’m going to be working you need to have

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a PC or you need to have a Mac and the

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reality these days is that that horizon

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it’s a lot more broader you know you you

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really have your PC’s you really have

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their Macs and then you have iOS Android

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/ Chrome

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as your full operating system and as a

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machine that can really do everything

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that you need and everything that at

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least most people need yes there is

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going to be the people who need

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something specific but for most people

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on iOS or a Chromebook it’s plenty and I

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what people don’t you know I was

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recently upgrade my my iOS to a twelve

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point nine inches high but is huge no

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question about it and that was part of

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my idea get that huge thing and I

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somebody asked me I don’t understand why

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you’re basically spending the same

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amount of money that you could spend on

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a Mac but you are getting an iPad that

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doesn’t make any sense to me and that’s

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a lot of what I found when I talk about

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technology same thing with the

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Chromebooks people have not yet come to

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see that these platforms are complete

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and fully capable to be not only a

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substitute for for what you have but in

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many cases they’re really even better

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that what you can do for the kind of

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things you do on a regular PC or a Mac

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same thing with the Chromebooks you know

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when you go and get a Chromebook you can

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do so much with them you know with

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really such smooth if you get that same

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price point and then go for a PC it’s

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true

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you can find you know computers PC

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compatible for the same $200 what you

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don’t understand is that you are getting

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five years ago technology instead of

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2017 technology you are getting a

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computer that Wilbur Lee runs Windows

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versus a computer that will keep being

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fast and effective that is the reason

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it’s a fascinating

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shopping for me and it is still quite

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interesting for me to see how many

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companies and how many even IT

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departments have not seen the power of

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move and train your employees to

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something better it’s actually quite

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fascinating to me because you know I

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think the the area where I’ve seen the

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most investment right now is in

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education in in the you know student

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classroom market and I think that’s

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because the devices are really

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inexpensive comparative to the rest of

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the market as you said you can either

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get up to date processors and other

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hardware with Chrome OS or you can get

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really ancient hardware with a modern

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say Windows operating system on it that

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doesn’t run properly or doesn’t run as

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much as it could because of that and the

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the reality is is that you know most a

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lot of schools are adopting G suite for

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education which used to be called Google

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Apps for Education G suite is providing

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them the backbone for them to be able to

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run Google classroom and all their other

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administrative and email and calendar

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and so and so forth and so now it’s just

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a sort of an easy pairing to then have

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the students connect using Chromebooks

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it makes a lot of sense so I think

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that’s that’s one area where we’re

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seeing a lot of investment but I see so

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much potential across the entire sort of

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ecosystem of computing specifically to

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the topic of today what what I found

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really fascinating is that Chromebooks

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today the Chrome OS platform really has

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some missing elements they it’s it

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doesn’t sometimes have as much

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coordination between the touchscreen and

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you know what you would typically expect

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from a fully integrated system with

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applications and so Google decided to

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just basically allow Android OS that is

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Android apps to be able to be utilized

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on a Chromebook now so for those of you

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who don’t know and you are thinking

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about whether or not you should get that

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if you if you’re comfortable with your

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smartphone or tablet you can actually

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now engage any

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book with the touchscreen to engage I

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think at least that I’ll have to check

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on this and I’ll put this in the show

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notes but I believe that it’s actually

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capable of being utilized even if you

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don’t have a touchscreen but the point

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is is that basically any of the Chrome

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OS devices now allow you to use the

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Android apps directly on the Chromebook

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so it opens up your Chromebook to you

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know hundreds of thousands of

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applications and capabilities that it

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didn’t once have so very similar to sort

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of the parody that you’re talking about

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augusto in terms of iOS having you know

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having all the functionality to do all

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of your computing needs well I think at

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this point Chromebook with the addition

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of Android apps being able to be

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utilized on it it’s there you know it’s

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really fundamentally there you know I

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part because of you know what I do on my

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day today I have to luxury to to play

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with a lot of technology it’s called

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work and as you know that’s kind of

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things but but the reality a lot of

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times is play and and it is incredible

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to me what you could do you know with a

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Chrome OS machine that I agree with you

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a lot of schools have him best heavily

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originally not necessarily for the right

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reasons or maybe those were the right

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reasons and they’re part of the reasons

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schools start investing heavily was a

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control issue they could control what a

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device can do what a device can not do

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install nor install in an easier way

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than any platform including Windows and

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you know being Windows probably the

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second easiest platform to control this

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on a major scale and that’s part of the

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reason schools to start investing

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heavily there it was a cost was a factor

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no question about it but more than the

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factor of the coast was the other but

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what people don’t see and don’t know is

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people look at this machines and say

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well you know there are cheap

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alternative

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I will not need for work a cheap

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alternative and if you have never play

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with them you will be surprised what a

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$200 machine I’m not disagreeing the

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$200 machine is not the best bill when

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you look even in the stores and now you

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go the high end of those machines it is

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incredible how well-built they are and

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how fast they work you know it reminds

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me in a way you know before many years

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back when you would you start getting

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the laptops you know and you have the

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HP’s of the world the lenovo’s of the

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world that were the high end quote

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unquote corporate machines where they

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were really well built and then you

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start getting all these Chinese brands

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and some of them has improved incredibly

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since but they were really cheap

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machines with cheap quality and all that

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they will just be able to do the work

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that is a little bit of what happening

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there but for most companies they will

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get a better control on their devices

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for the companies who enjoy that on a

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Chromebook that even what they will get

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into a Windows machine and when you go

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high-end versus high-end that is anyways

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what most corporate companies will get

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the quality and the hard work and the

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components it is incredible the

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difference and it’s incredible how well

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and how powerful the chrome platform is

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and how well it works yeah I think I

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think it’s important to recognize that

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if you say if you purchase a Chromebook

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today and it’s a new Chromebook one not

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one that’s been resold you you you start

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off with the Chromebook itself and many

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times Google is giving away free credits

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to a year’s worth of Google Drive at

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probably tho hundred gigabyte or one

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terabyte level you basically have the

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ability to go ahead and have all of the

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data on the pommel on the Chromebook

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itself saved into Google Drive so you

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have it access accessible anywhere you

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might be connected to the Internet

0:13:16.170,0:13:20.820
and the other great part about

0:13:18.149,0:13:22.920
Chromebooks is as you said gusto the

0:13:20.820,0:13:25.769
lightning speed at which they work since

0:13:22.920,0:13:28.139
they basically are running a browser the

0:13:25.769,0:13:31.079
operating system itself is is literally

0:13:28.139,0:13:33.990
just the browser in front of you it can

0:13:31.079,0:13:37.199
it can launch and open incredibly fast I

0:13:33.990,0:13:38.940
think you know from completely off to

0:13:37.199,0:13:42.660
open I think they say it takes about

0:13:38.940,0:13:45.360
eight seconds for the the laptop to boot

0:13:42.660,0:13:46.949
and yes I said eight seconds comparative

0:13:45.360,0:13:50.220
to maybe sometimes eight minutes for

0:13:46.949,0:13:52.350
some Windows computers to boot I used to

0:13:50.220,0:13:53.670
do the you know turn the computer on in

0:13:52.350,0:13:55.320
the morning at the office and go get a

0:13:53.670,0:13:56.970
cup of coffee and come back and wait for

0:13:55.320,0:14:00.600
it to finally show me the login screen

0:13:56.970,0:14:02.190
and and so we can all sort of those of

0:14:00.600,0:14:05.220
us of a certain age can remember that

0:14:02.190,0:14:07.170
and now you know we have a basically a

0:14:05.220,0:14:10.380
Chromebook that you can open in eight

0:14:07.170,0:14:13.170
seconds later it goes from cold start to

0:14:10.380,0:14:15.120
login screen in eight seconds if you

0:14:13.170,0:14:17.010
just close the Chromebook and open it

0:14:15.120,0:14:19.199
back up it instantaneously turns back on

0:14:17.010,0:14:20.610
when it’s in sleep mode so you’re

0:14:19.199,0:14:22.110
talking about a computer that has an

0:14:20.610,0:14:24.510
incredibly fast

0:14:22.110,0:14:26.760
you know processing system that is the

0:14:24.510,0:14:28.470
operating system itself not including

0:14:26.760,0:14:32.579
the processors that are that are running

0:14:28.470,0:14:34.230
the the code so it’s it’s super cool in

0:14:32.579,0:14:36.779
the sense that it you know you have all

0:14:34.230,0:14:40.079
of your Google products available to you

0:14:36.779,0:14:41.880
Google Docs Google Drive Gmail and you

0:14:40.079,0:14:44.370
name it and some of the more high-end

0:14:41.880,0:14:45.930
Chromebooks like the Samsung Chromebook

0:14:44.370,0:14:48.350
plus which as of the time of this

0:14:45.930,0:14:50.730
recording is sort of the newest flagship

0:14:48.350,0:14:53.670
Chromebook that’s out there for Google

0:14:50.730,0:14:55.529
and you know it’s touchscreen you flip

0:14:53.670,0:14:57.329
it over and it becomes a tablet you know

0:14:55.529,0:14:59.160
it’s just got some really really cool

0:14:57.329,0:15:00.899
features it has a stylus that’s built

0:14:59.160,0:15:02.640
into the device so you just sort of push

0:15:00.899,0:15:05.610
a little button and the stylus pops out

0:15:02.640,0:15:08.720
of the side of it and and it’s also USB

0:15:05.610,0:15:13.529
C powered so you can you can plug and

0:15:08.720,0:15:15.510
connect two devices using USB C which is

0:15:13.529,0:15:17.880
the same port for data transfer it’s

0:15:15.510,0:15:21.510
just a really really cool little system

0:15:17.880,0:15:24.860
but as as we’ve said the the barrier to

0:15:21.510,0:15:27.360
cost and affordability is so very low in

0:15:24.860,0:15:29.130
the Google Chrome market because you can

0:15:27.360,0:15:29.730
get you can you know buy into Google

0:15:29.130,0:15:32.010
Chrome

0:15:29.730,0:15:35.760
for as little as probably 150 dollars

0:15:32.010,0:15:37.949
for one of the entry-level Chromebooks

0:15:35.760,0:15:40.410
so there’s a lot going on there but the

0:15:37.949,0:15:42.959
system itself is it’s pretty remarkable

0:15:40.410,0:15:45.899
for you know what you can get for the

0:15:42.959,0:15:47.610
cost so just so we have sort of a basic

0:15:45.899,0:15:50.430
understanding of what the Chromebooks

0:15:47.610,0:15:53.160
really do and you know what’s allowed on

0:15:50.430,0:15:56.040
them it is an interesting paradigm

0:15:53.160,0:15:59.550
change that most people has been

0:15:56.040,0:16:03.420
resistant you know to it even even to

0:15:59.550,0:16:07.680
this day you know I think again I I’ve

0:16:03.420,0:16:10.949
been living on it on iOS world now for a

0:16:07.680,0:16:15.480
really long time but it still impressed

0:16:10.949,0:16:18.480
me how many people go and you know five

0:16:15.480,0:16:22.440
to ten minutes of their morning goes

0:16:18.480,0:16:24.389
into restarted machine it’s something

0:16:22.440,0:16:27.750
that I you know I could not understand

0:16:24.389,0:16:30.240
it before they they iPad that was one of

0:16:27.750,0:16:33.570
my biggest pet peeve when I leave on the

0:16:30.240,0:16:37.670
on the PC world and one of my happy

0:16:33.570,0:16:41.639
things when I change to the Mac in 2007

0:16:37.670,0:16:45.600
it was how quick my Mac could take me

0:16:41.639,0:16:48.029
from power to working versus how long it

0:16:45.600,0:16:50.220
took my PC to take me to do the same

0:16:48.029,0:16:55.529
thing and you think in 10 years that has

0:16:50.220,0:16:57.029
improved and apparently has not yeah and

0:16:55.529,0:17:00.000
I mean you know the reality is is that

0:16:57.029,0:17:02.160
Microsoft needs to get their mobile

0:17:00.000,0:17:05.490
world in order you know I think that

0:17:02.160,0:17:07.350
they really need to do something to

0:17:05.490,0:17:08.819
really catch up in that market and that

0:17:07.350,0:17:11.100
and I don’t have any belief that they

0:17:08.819,0:17:13.890
won’t you know the reality is is that

0:17:11.100,0:17:17.309
you know in technology especially with a

0:17:13.890,0:17:19.079
juggernaut like Microsoft they they

0:17:17.309,0:17:21.449
could they could do something if they

0:17:19.079,0:17:23.880
could really turn their windows mobile

0:17:21.449,0:17:26.459
platform into something that was that

0:17:23.880,0:17:29.220
was really amazing you know maybe if

0:17:26.459,0:17:30.419
they really pushed their mobile platform

0:17:29.220,0:17:33.240
a little more I don’t know what they

0:17:30.419,0:17:35.130
could do to catch up but I feel like

0:17:33.240,0:17:36.990
they could and you know it’s sort of

0:17:35.130,0:17:39.270
different than blackberry which you know

0:17:36.990,0:17:41.220
blackberry recently adopted the Android

0:17:39.270,0:17:43.290
OS and so now they have a line of

0:17:41.220,0:17:45.240
BlackBerry devices with an

0:17:43.290,0:17:47.280
less on it but you know the reality is

0:17:45.240,0:17:49.560
is that they’re very few and not really

0:17:47.280,0:17:52.080
sure BlackBerry has the just basically

0:17:49.560,0:17:53.970
the money to survive in that market

0:17:52.080,0:17:56.430
right so I’m not quite sure BlackBerry’s

0:17:53.970,0:17:58.080
gonna be the winner because they don’t

0:17:56.430,0:17:59.670
have the resources but Microsoft does

0:17:58.080,0:18:02.280
have the resources to be able to pull up

0:17:59.670,0:18:04.230
in this and but but just sort of taking

0:18:02.280,0:18:05.670
taking a step back something we haven’t

0:18:04.230,0:18:07.740
talked about yet is that is the fact

0:18:05.670,0:18:11.010
that you know Google like we said at the

0:18:07.740,0:18:12.590
top of this podcast is Google has these

0:18:11.010,0:18:14.520
two operating systems running

0:18:12.590,0:18:16.890
independently of one another they’ve

0:18:14.520,0:18:19.220
kind of spliced one into the other that

0:18:16.890,0:18:22.320
is allowing Android applications onto

0:18:19.220,0:18:24.540
Chromebooks but Google has been working

0:18:22.320,0:18:27.450
in the backgrounds to start the process

0:18:24.540,0:18:30.210
of developing the whole new operating

0:18:27.450,0:18:32.970
system and sort of the foundational

0:18:30.210,0:18:35.700
principles and the reasoning behind it

0:18:32.970,0:18:37.830
is so that as Google creates more

0:18:35.700,0:18:40.350
hardware remember Google now has Google

0:18:37.830,0:18:42.870
home they have the chromecast line they

0:18:40.350,0:18:45.840
have the virtual headsets with the with

0:18:42.870,0:18:48.090
Google VR dream headsets and Google

0:18:45.840,0:18:50.490
cardboard I suppose they have you know

0:18:48.090,0:18:53.700
all of these various connected devices

0:18:50.490,0:18:55.080
and they have the brillo platform and so

0:18:53.700,0:18:57.870
and so forth they have a lot of

0:18:55.080,0:18:59.490
different devices now that they have to

0:18:57.870,0:19:01.710
support in addition to their phones

0:18:59.490,0:19:06.680
right the pixel pixel see and the Nexus

0:19:01.710,0:19:09.210
line of phones and so Google is going to

0:19:06.680,0:19:11.070
want to create some efficiency there and

0:19:09.210,0:19:13.440
I think that’s where the development of

0:19:11.070,0:19:15.060
this new operating system currently sort

0:19:13.440,0:19:17.520
of codename I think is fuchsia

0:19:15.060,0:19:20.010
with the original sort of the first

0:19:17.520,0:19:22.290
edition being Andromeda and or the first

0:19:20.010,0:19:24.540
version being in dromeda and this is the

0:19:22.290,0:19:28.620
idea of being able to pull together an

0:19:24.540,0:19:30.990
omni operating system that will be able

0:19:28.620,0:19:33.990
to be utilized on your phone tablet

0:19:30.990,0:19:35.490
computer computing device whatever it

0:19:33.990,0:19:39.750
might be with you know that thing that

0:19:35.490,0:19:43.890
we currently call a laptop but comes in

0:19:39.750,0:19:46.170
many different forms now to our home you

0:19:43.890,0:19:48.690
know home voice assistant like the

0:19:46.170,0:19:50.460
Google home – dear television you know

0:19:48.690,0:19:52.860
all of these devices will soon be

0:19:50.460,0:19:54.720
running maybe your refrigerator and your

0:19:52.860,0:19:57.110
stove and your microwave they’ll all be

0:19:54.720,0:20:00.230
running the same operating system

0:19:57.110,0:20:02.960
just in their own flavor for its device

0:20:00.230,0:20:05.540
so I think that’s really fascinating and

0:20:02.960,0:20:08.150
I’m curious what your thoughts are you

0:20:05.540,0:20:12.440
still and whether or not other major

0:20:08.150,0:20:14.600
tech like a Microsoft Amazon you know

0:20:12.440,0:20:17.929
Apple and so and so forth if all of a

0:20:14.600,0:20:21.110
sudden people have you know Android auto

0:20:17.929,0:20:23.540
you know running in their car and and

0:20:21.110,0:20:26.540
all of these other places you know this

0:20:23.540,0:20:29.030
Omni operating system that really closes

0:20:26.540,0:20:31.760
out you know edges out the other other

0:20:29.030,0:20:34.280
market players from the ecosystem

0:20:31.760,0:20:36.890
whether or not they would want to

0:20:34.280,0:20:41.690
respond by doing something similar you

0:20:36.890,0:20:44.600
know Android it’s dawn or Google has

0:20:41.690,0:20:47.120
done an incredible job and I think one

0:20:44.600,0:20:53.210
of the biggest threats and specifically

0:20:47.120,0:20:56.720
for Microsoft is Android and the reason

0:20:53.210,0:21:00.679
is if people discover they don’t need

0:20:56.720,0:21:06.890
their Windows machines by the way you

0:21:00.679,0:21:11.780
don’t and by the way you don’t as more

0:21:06.890,0:21:15.160
people come and discover that you know

0:21:11.780,0:21:18.799
Google has done something really

0:21:15.160,0:21:22.549
game-changer when they when and merge

0:21:18.799,0:21:25.400
you know chrome and other Android

0:21:22.549,0:21:29.210
platform allowing really a universal

0:21:25.400,0:21:32.540
device so do I think they can do a

0:21:29.210,0:21:34.340
really interesting shake on technology

0:21:32.540,0:21:36.320
as we understand it and the answer is

0:21:34.340,0:21:40.250
yes and they could be a really big

0:21:36.320,0:21:43.790
problem for Apple and for Microsoft

0:21:40.250,0:21:48.169
because they like the latest version of

0:21:43.790,0:21:50.419
Windows I’m sorry to say but they are

0:21:48.169,0:21:52.309
you know exciting it’s not exactly a

0:21:50.419,0:21:54.530
word that will come to anybody who you

0:21:52.309,0:21:57.320
said mine you know nobody will say

0:21:54.530,0:22:00.260
homage you know there was a time where

0:21:57.320,0:22:03.710
you will get excited because the new

0:22:00.260,0:22:08.140
version of Windows was coming out okay

0:22:03.710,0:22:10.110
and now you don’t you know there when

0:22:08.140,0:22:13.200
when a Steve Joe

0:22:10.110,0:22:16.350
announced the iPads he said well PCs are

0:22:13.200,0:22:19.980
going to be like trucks and people laugh

0:22:16.350,0:22:21.570
at that comment and you can look on the

0:22:19.980,0:22:22.320
web because that’s one of the big things

0:22:21.570,0:22:24.840
on the web

0:22:22.320,0:22:28.890
again you can find the comments of

0:22:24.840,0:22:31.560
people you know big technology names at

0:22:28.890,0:22:34.170
the time that I’m sure they will love if

0:22:31.560,0:22:37.680
you cannot find those quotes okay

0:22:34.170,0:22:40.590
laughing about that comment and in less

0:22:37.680,0:22:44.180
than 10 years we are seeing that that is

0:22:40.590,0:22:48.210
true okay they have turned to be chunk

0:22:44.180,0:22:50.000
ineffective and slow devices very that’s

0:22:48.210,0:22:54.660
you know they’re the nicest you can

0:22:50.000,0:22:57.690
define it and as soon as people you know

0:22:54.660,0:23:01.020
Microsoft if you go back again 10 years

0:22:57.690,0:23:04.710
back if you will ask people to do a

0:23:01.020,0:23:08.190
document okay for people the only way to

0:23:04.710,0:23:10.560
do a document was using Microsoft Word

0:23:08.190,0:23:12.510
that’s not a reality and most minds

0:23:10.560,0:23:15.330
these days okay

0:23:12.510,0:23:17.340
same thing with Excel same thing with

0:23:15.330,0:23:20.130
PowerPoint and I’m not saying they’re

0:23:17.340,0:23:22.860
they don’t have things that are they do

0:23:20.130,0:23:27.830
really well I’m just saying it’s not the

0:23:22.860,0:23:30.960
standard anymore okay and more and more

0:23:27.830,0:23:35.880
Google has been turned the standards and

0:23:30.960,0:23:39.060
and I believe unless Microsoft does

0:23:35.880,0:23:42.990
something really innovative and it need

0:23:39.060,0:23:48.570
to be something you know amazingly

0:23:42.990,0:23:51.200
better than Chrome and unto Google they

0:23:48.570,0:23:54.450
are going to be in trouble because

0:23:51.200,0:23:57.540
nobody is excited to use a PC these days

0:23:54.450,0:24:00.840
you use to and I understand I move

0:23:57.540,0:24:03.660
myself in a world where delete there is

0:24:00.840,0:24:08.430
a lot of geeks and there is a lot of

0:24:03.660,0:24:12.150
people using machines I can recall the

0:24:08.430,0:24:14.190
last time somebody with excitement show

0:24:12.150,0:24:17.820
me their PC

0:24:14.190,0:24:20.850
okay I can’t I have seen people excited

0:24:17.820,0:24:23.910
about iPads Chrome’s mobile phones

0:24:20.850,0:24:25.890
tablets but I don’t recall the last time

0:24:23.910,0:24:28.440
somebody came with her PC laptop

0:24:25.890,0:24:31.320
regardless of the brand okay

0:24:28.440,0:24:33.530
calm excitement even the efforts

0:24:31.320,0:24:36.600
Microsoft has been done with the surface

0:24:33.530,0:24:39.810
okay I have not seen a lot of people

0:24:36.600,0:24:41.910
excited by them to say I was gonna say

0:24:39.810,0:24:44.220
the surface it’s the surface I think is

0:24:41.910,0:24:46.290
one of the few exceptions to what you

0:24:44.220,0:24:49.800
just said is that I have I actually

0:24:46.290,0:24:52.250
really do like the surface and you know

0:24:49.800,0:24:56.060
the surface pro 3 that I use at work is

0:24:52.250,0:24:59.220
is actually really great you know but

0:24:56.060,0:25:01.860
but you’re right you don’t see a lot of

0:24:59.220,0:25:03.450
people you know running around you know

0:25:01.860,0:25:06.090
screaming from the hilltops that it’s

0:25:03.450,0:25:07.950
fantastic you know it’s it is I think

0:25:06.090,0:25:10.380
it’s great but I think it’s one of them

0:25:07.950,0:25:13.170
I think it’s a remnant you know sort of

0:25:10.380,0:25:15.750
device even with its sort of innovation

0:25:13.170,0:25:17.580
it’s just basically taking what was

0:25:15.750,0:25:19.380
already on the market and putting some

0:25:17.580,0:25:23.190
good Hardware behind it and then

0:25:19.380,0:25:26.580
throwing Windows RT on it right right

0:25:23.190,0:25:30.120
and add ads and that make that people

0:25:26.580,0:25:32.760
you know hey yes it is it is great oh

0:25:30.120,0:25:33.840
yes it is a good machine but nobody’s

0:25:32.760,0:25:35.970
excited about it

0:25:33.840,0:25:38.850
nobody’s saying oh you know what this

0:25:35.970,0:25:40.980
will really really make a difference or

0:25:38.850,0:25:45.450
this will change everything or this no

0:25:40.980,0:25:47.520
it’s just you know I like you know like

0:25:45.450,0:25:51.050
you see you sir I had I know a couple

0:25:47.520,0:25:55.050
people who use them but there is not

0:25:51.050,0:25:57.300
they will tell people who again on my

0:25:55.050,0:25:59.340
gig world okay who have them they will

0:25:57.300,0:26:03.000
tell you the best hardware you can find

0:25:59.340,0:26:07.470
to run Windows ok but it is a really

0:26:03.000,0:26:11.040
called objective message and not an

0:26:07.470,0:26:12.960
excitement thing instead get a phone get

0:26:11.040,0:26:15.630
a tablet you know and people will be

0:26:12.960,0:26:20.160
excited to show you and I think that’s a

0:26:15.630,0:26:23.400
that’s a sign of where things are going

0:26:20.160,0:26:25.960
I have people show me with much more

0:26:23.400,0:26:29.289
excitement a high-end Chromebook

0:26:25.960,0:26:31.509
and surface oh yeah oh yeah

0:26:29.289,0:26:34.090
cuz you know it’s it’s the brilliance of

0:26:31.509,0:26:37.210
you know this fairly light device you

0:26:34.090,0:26:39.100
know it has eight to 13 hours of battery

0:26:37.210,0:26:42.100
life so you know it’s gonna last your

0:26:39.100,0:26:43.899
entire workday without being plugged in

0:26:42.100,0:26:45.970
you know you could just be on the go and

0:26:43.899,0:26:47.889
get what you need done you flip over the

0:26:45.970,0:26:49.960
screen and it becomes a tablet you flip

0:26:47.889,0:26:51.519
it back over you start typing you know

0:26:49.960,0:26:54.360
there’s a lot of really amazing stuff

0:26:51.519,0:26:56.889
that the Chrome OS platform provides and

0:26:54.360,0:26:59.529
I think that as soon as we find an

0:26:56.889,0:27:02.350
operating system that it develops into I

0:26:59.529,0:27:03.820
think that Apple and Microsoft and the

0:27:02.350,0:27:05.470
rest of them are really going to end up

0:27:03.820,0:27:07.749
and I think Microsoft of all of them has

0:27:05.470,0:27:10.480
done and has been working on this idea

0:27:07.749,0:27:13.299
of having you know basically the

0:27:10.480,0:27:15.490
universal windows you know what do they

0:27:13.299,0:27:19.119
call the uwp or whatever it is Universal

0:27:15.490,0:27:20.649
windows whatever so that you know design

0:27:19.119,0:27:22.360
and programming and everything else is

0:27:20.649,0:27:25.929
sort of streamlined into this particular

0:27:22.360,0:27:28.029
view and you know it’s it’s really

0:27:25.929,0:27:31.629
important I think for us all to

0:27:28.029,0:27:33.850
recognize that whether it’s the

0:27:31.629,0:27:36.249
universal Windows platform or we choose

0:27:33.850,0:27:37.809
Google whatever Google calls it let’s

0:27:36.249,0:27:41.409
just call it you know well I’m just

0:27:37.809,0:27:43.869
gonna call it Chrome OS / Android and

0:27:41.409,0:27:45.610
whatever it becomes once and you know

0:27:43.869,0:27:48.340
Google develop completely finishes this

0:27:45.610,0:27:51.809
new you know platform you know or

0:27:48.340,0:27:55.419
choosing Apple you’re really choosing an

0:27:51.809,0:27:56.769
ecosystem and that that I think is

0:27:55.419,0:27:59.019
really important for us all to recognize

0:27:56.769,0:28:02.649
is that you know there’s gonna come a

0:27:59.019,0:28:04.450
point where this idea of having say you

0:28:02.649,0:28:06.850
know I have an Android wear watch you

0:28:04.450,0:28:09.450
know and I have an Android phone and I

0:28:06.850,0:28:11.679
have you know many different kinds of

0:28:09.450,0:28:14.440
operating systems on computers you know

0:28:11.679,0:28:15.850
I’ve my macbook have you know Windows

0:28:14.440,0:28:17.499
computers I have lots of Windows

0:28:15.850,0:28:20.350
computers I have Linux I’ve you know

0:28:17.499,0:28:23.350
Windows running on Windows RT running on

0:28:20.350,0:28:25.450
the surface Pro well someday it’s gonna

0:28:23.350,0:28:28.029
be really difficult to have all of that

0:28:25.450,0:28:29.470
interacting with one another with but

0:28:28.029,0:28:30.730
you know like completely within one

0:28:29.470,0:28:32.590
ecosystem you know what I mean you

0:28:30.730,0:28:33.850
couldn’t you couldn’t do you’re not

0:28:32.590,0:28:34.929
gonna be able to do that as easily and

0:28:33.850,0:28:36.580
that actually is something that’s

0:28:34.929,0:28:38.980
worrisome to me I don’t want to be

0:28:36.580,0:28:39.900
locked into a specific ecosystem I’ve

0:28:38.980,0:28:41.610
and

0:28:39.900,0:28:44.940
and I say that probably a little bit

0:28:41.610,0:28:47.880
hypocritically because you know most of

0:28:44.940,0:28:49.230
what I run is Google based so it doesn’t

0:28:47.880,0:28:52.320
really matter what platform I’m on

0:28:49.230,0:28:54.390
because I’m basically accessing all of

0:28:52.320,0:28:56.370
those Google services across all of the

0:28:54.390,0:28:58.470
devices you know even to the very

0:28:56.370,0:29:00.240
fundamental fact that you know I use G

0:28:58.470,0:29:02.220
suite in business and then I use my

0:29:00.240,0:29:05.850
Google account in my personal life and

0:29:02.220,0:29:07.920
so through those Google logins I’m using

0:29:05.850,0:29:09.480
that to log in to almost everything you

0:29:07.920,0:29:11.760
know if it doesn’t have Google login I

0:29:09.480,0:29:13.710
usually don’t use it because I want to

0:29:11.760,0:29:16.260
be able to have that level of security

0:29:13.710,0:29:19.260
for accessing different applications and

0:29:16.260,0:29:23.060
so you know across the many devices I’m

0:29:19.260,0:29:27.270
using Google almost in every way that

0:29:23.060,0:29:30.420
for say for me to transition back to an

0:29:27.270,0:29:31.710
all Apple environment would be very very

0:29:30.420,0:29:34.220
difficult for me today you know to

0:29:31.710,0:29:36.660
literally remove Google from my life and

0:29:34.220,0:29:39.690
and I think that’s I think that’s a

0:29:36.660,0:29:41.460
again something that that should be you

0:29:39.690,0:29:42.930
know thoughtful when you’re choosing a

0:29:41.460,0:29:44.480
platform I think it’s really important

0:29:42.930,0:29:47.150
for us all to take that into account

0:29:44.480,0:29:53.940
that’s correct that’s correct actually

0:29:47.150,0:29:56.750
you know I can I believe this is Amazon

0:29:53.940,0:30:00.420
has the power to do

0:29:56.750,0:30:04.710
checkmate any day they want in the sense

0:30:00.420,0:30:10.920
that amazon has an incredibly knowledge

0:30:04.710,0:30:14.430
of what our computer taste needs and use

0:30:10.920,0:30:20.220
are you know in more detail than we even

0:30:14.430,0:30:23.700
may be aware of and they have play an

0:30:20.220,0:30:29.150
experience with hard work for now many

0:30:23.700,0:30:33.090
many years they have developed their own

0:30:29.150,0:30:36.990
flavor of the Android and I think with

0:30:33.090,0:30:41.730
the new changes that Google is doing on

0:30:36.990,0:30:46.860
Android we may see if they figure out a

0:30:41.730,0:30:50.000
way to do it in a revolutionary way we

0:30:46.860,0:30:54.560
may see the first computer Android based

0:30:50.000,0:30:58.790
on book base from Amazon and base it on

0:30:54.560,0:31:02.990
the distribution power they have we are

0:30:58.790,0:31:08.600
going to see a lot of manufacturers in

0:31:02.990,0:31:12.980
deep deep trouble because you know for

0:31:08.600,0:31:17.510
good or for bad when Amazon gets into

0:31:12.980,0:31:19.490
this into that game very you know they

0:31:17.510,0:31:22.850
already have an infrastructure there

0:31:19.490,0:31:26.480
there is no way to build you know even

0:31:22.850,0:31:29.870
if you go to the e-book market you know

0:31:26.480,0:31:32.630
with all that Apple has tried to done to

0:31:29.870,0:31:37.340
conquer there they are not even close to

0:31:32.630,0:31:41.530
conquer that because you can beat the

0:31:37.340,0:31:44.840
the infrastructure that the Kindle has

0:31:41.530,0:31:48.290
as a platform and I think that’s one of

0:31:44.840,0:31:50.840
the other things that is a persistent

0:31:48.290,0:31:54.620
threatening for the whole hardware

0:31:50.840,0:31:59.630
market as much as I like iOS really

0:31:54.620,0:32:03.560
Android has an an advantage that most

0:31:59.630,0:32:06.470
people is unaware of but where they can

0:32:03.560,0:32:09.530
come and really do checkmate anytime of

0:32:06.470,0:32:12.230
the week now with all these changes they

0:32:09.530,0:32:15.010
are doing the experience they have with

0:32:12.230,0:32:19.190
the mobile the integration the web I

0:32:15.010,0:32:23.450
have no doubt that the next iteration of

0:32:19.190,0:32:26.060
their system is going to really change

0:32:23.450,0:32:30.610
the things on ways people are not even

0:32:26.060,0:32:35.780
expecting to the point that the software

0:32:30.610,0:32:36.820
world as we understand it it’s not going

0:32:35.780,0:32:40.640
to be the same

0:32:36.820,0:32:44.710
well the curious part for me is that you

0:32:40.640,0:32:47.240
know we already have android-based

0:32:44.710,0:32:50.240
tablets you know there’s the Lenovo yoga

0:32:47.240,0:32:52.340
book Android tablet which is really

0:32:50.240,0:32:55.940
amazing so so for those of you don’t

0:32:52.340,0:32:59.780
know about it it basically is the yoga

0:32:55.940,0:33:02.840
book is a this cool device that has this

0:32:59.780,0:33:03.810
very specialized hinge but on one side

0:33:02.840,0:33:05.610
is your

0:33:03.810,0:33:07.320
your screen on the other side is

0:33:05.610,0:33:10.500
something called the halo keyboard and

0:33:07.320,0:33:12.480
it’s basically a Wacom keyboard with

0:33:10.500,0:33:15.660
some really cool software with a haptic

0:33:12.480,0:33:17.730
feedback keyboard and so that means when

0:33:15.660,0:33:20.130
you touch it it gives you you know a

0:33:17.730,0:33:22.140
little vibration buzz when you when you

0:33:20.130,0:33:24.210
go ahead and touch it and you have the

0:33:22.140,0:33:26.900
ability to draw on it like you would you

0:33:24.210,0:33:29.220
know pen to paper kind of feeling to it

0:33:26.900,0:33:30.750
or leads it’s not the feel to it but

0:33:29.220,0:33:33.150
certainly accuracy in terms of drawing

0:33:30.750,0:33:35.160
so for artists you know you basically

0:33:33.150,0:33:37.290
have an Android operating system based

0:33:35.160,0:33:39.390
tablet that you can do fairly

0:33:37.290,0:33:41.250
sophisticated drawing you can throw a

0:33:39.390,0:33:43.350
sheet of paper on it draw on the paper

0:33:41.250,0:33:47.940
and it captures what you’ve written

0:33:43.350,0:33:50.220
using the stylus on to your yoga book

0:33:47.940,0:33:53.430
and you can capture that data directly

0:33:50.220,0:33:54.960
into digital you know you can have their

0:33:53.430,0:33:57.330
handwritten version but the digital

0:33:54.960,0:33:59.610
versions captured behind that so I think

0:33:57.330,0:34:01.110
you know in a lot of ways we’re kind of

0:33:59.610,0:34:03.840
very gusto you know in the sense that

0:34:01.110,0:34:07.890
you know there’s this this this plethora

0:34:03.840,0:34:10.230
of option and you know we’re seeing

0:34:07.890,0:34:12.240
Android you know I said this probably

0:34:10.230,0:34:13.980
going back six or seven years ago you

0:34:12.240,0:34:16.920
know people would say well which is the

0:34:13.980,0:34:18.180
operating system of the you know which

0:34:16.920,0:34:19.710
operating system should I go with you

0:34:18.180,0:34:22.560
know when it comes to smartphones or

0:34:19.710,0:34:24.840
devices and whatnot you know the way I

0:34:22.560,0:34:26.700
always saw it was you know you have

0:34:24.840,0:34:29.970
Apple which is a premium you know you

0:34:26.700,0:34:32.790
have to be of a certain income level and

0:34:29.970,0:34:36.360
a certain sort of you know ability to

0:34:32.790,0:34:39.660
basically afford Apple and and I and I

0:34:36.360,0:34:43.080
believe in Apple as being a premium

0:34:39.660,0:34:45.570
product it’s a luxury product and that’s

0:34:43.080,0:34:47.250
okay what I think Apple did in terms of

0:34:45.570,0:34:49.470
its mistake was it tried to go out to

0:34:47.250,0:34:53.400
the masses you know and when you try to

0:34:49.470,0:34:56.010
sell an $800 phone to people living in

0:34:53.400,0:34:57.900
poverty I don’t think that’s the that’s

0:34:56.010,0:35:00.600
the not the appropriate market kit you

0:34:57.900,0:35:01.920
know and and it became it has become a

0:35:00.600,0:35:04.110
status symbol so you have a lot of

0:35:01.920,0:35:06.090
people here in the United States you

0:35:04.110,0:35:08.280
know we we tend to think about mobile

0:35:06.090,0:35:09.690
phones or smartphones being cheaper but

0:35:08.280,0:35:11.490
that’s just because in the rest of the

0:35:09.690,0:35:14.640
world you know they they don’t they

0:35:11.490,0:35:17.349
don’t pay the same way we do so the

0:35:14.640,0:35:18.969
telecoms typically subsidize our phone

0:35:17.349,0:35:20.709
so they’re cheaper if we stay with them

0:35:18.969,0:35:22.779
right so we sign a contract we stay with

0:35:20.709,0:35:24.150
them longer and therefore all right we

0:35:22.779,0:35:26.259
get our phones for a little bit cheaper

0:35:24.150,0:35:27.459
overseas they have very different models

0:35:26.259,0:35:29.109
you know a lot of people have to buy

0:35:27.459,0:35:32.199
their phones outright and then connect

0:35:29.109,0:35:34.059
it to a service I particularly like the

0:35:32.199,0:35:36.130
I think it’s the Japanese model where

0:35:34.059,0:35:37.719
you pay a monthly fee and I think we

0:35:36.130,0:35:39.039
have that in the United States starting

0:35:37.719,0:35:40.989
to sort of make its way in but you just

0:35:39.039,0:35:44.769
basically pay a monthly fee say it’s 15

0:35:40.989,0:35:47.259
20 30 dollars a month and you just you

0:35:44.769,0:35:49.119
you pay until you own your phone and

0:35:47.259,0:35:50.829
then you can swap it out when you get

0:35:49.119,0:35:53.589
done paying for it which is usually it’s

0:35:50.829,0:35:57.640
you know it’s sort of end-of-life anyway

0:35:53.589,0:35:59.499
and and so we we have this you know what

0:35:57.640,0:36:01.329
I believe is a sort of a cheaper entry

0:35:59.499,0:36:04.359
into the market than the actual cost of

0:36:01.329,0:36:06.609
these devices and and so Apple has come

0:36:04.359,0:36:08.410
out there and been able to put iPhones

0:36:06.609,0:36:10.809
into the hands of a lot of people I

0:36:08.410,0:36:13.989
don’t think should really or are capable

0:36:10.809,0:36:16.690
of affording it long term and so they

0:36:13.989,0:36:17.799
then get the phone breaks and then

0:36:16.690,0:36:20.709
they’re like oh we have to replace it

0:36:17.799,0:36:22.719
and it’s like oh I don’t have $600 to

0:36:20.709,0:36:24.849
replace it with an you know that kind of

0:36:22.719,0:36:27.069
thing and so then they go to the Android

0:36:24.849,0:36:29.709
platform and it’s like oh great I can

0:36:27.069,0:36:31.359
spend $200 and get you know a phone

0:36:29.709,0:36:32.619
that’ll work and it’ll do everything I

0:36:31.359,0:36:35.499
really needed to do it’ll have all the

0:36:32.619,0:36:35.709
same apps pretty much and we’re good to

0:36:35.499,0:36:37.690
go

0:36:35.709,0:36:40.029
so I think we’re in sort of that space

0:36:37.690,0:36:43.059
where you know the Android operating

0:36:40.029,0:36:45.069
system itself can be put on almost any

0:36:43.059,0:36:48.519
device including an iPhone with a little

0:36:45.069,0:36:49.930
bit of jerry-rigging and so you get this

0:36:48.519,0:36:52.209
you get this operating system they can

0:36:49.930,0:36:55.209
go all on almost anything tablets

0:36:52.209,0:36:56.619
computers it’s gonna win it’s gonna win

0:36:55.209,0:36:59.229
the market in terms of being installed

0:36:56.619,0:37:00.640
on the most devices so and you know

0:36:59.229,0:37:02.920
that’s the reality if it’s free as

0:37:00.640,0:37:04.779
opposed to iOS which is not free you

0:37:02.920,0:37:05.949
know you’d have to pay Apple in order to

0:37:04.779,0:37:07.569
be able to install it on another device

0:37:05.949,0:37:09.880
and I’m not even sure Apple would allow

0:37:07.569,0:37:11.650
that and then the specifications for

0:37:09.880,0:37:13.299
that are very you know custom they’re

0:37:11.650,0:37:15.549
tied to the hardware it’s associated

0:37:13.299,0:37:18.130
with so you really can’t install iOS on

0:37:15.549,0:37:20.019
very many other things other than things

0:37:18.130,0:37:22.660
that Apple has developed you know for

0:37:20.019,0:37:25.779
for that purpose so the closed system

0:37:22.660,0:37:28.059
world is I think I think at the end of

0:37:25.779,0:37:30.880
the day just sort of and then I’ll stop

0:37:28.059,0:37:31.170
ranting but the but the idea here of

0:37:30.880,0:37:33.569
this

0:37:31.170,0:37:34.950
like you know closed operating system

0:37:33.569,0:37:38.490
and operating system that other people

0:37:34.950,0:37:40.170
can’t see the code you know what we

0:37:38.490,0:37:41.880
would consider free software on the

0:37:40.170,0:37:43.799
opposite side of that or open source

0:37:41.880,0:37:45.299
software I think the open source

0:37:43.799,0:37:47.609
software world is definitely going to

0:37:45.299,0:37:50.400
win here even if you’re paying for the

0:37:47.609,0:37:54.720
hardware and paying for services the

0:37:50.400,0:37:56.040
underlying code itself is it being free

0:37:54.720,0:37:59.940
is what’s going to win in the world

0:37:56.040,0:38:02.339
because the ability to to freely what I

0:37:59.940,0:38:04.020
mean by free is being able to openly see

0:38:02.339,0:38:05.760
its code and being able to manipulate

0:38:04.020,0:38:08.630
that code means that it can be installed

0:38:05.760,0:38:12.000
on many devices across an ecosystem and

0:38:08.630,0:38:15.720
that’s not going to hinder people across

0:38:12.000,0:38:17.849
any economic class which means that more

0:38:15.720,0:38:21.089
people can get it on their devices I

0:38:17.849,0:38:23.609
agree with you in that and and again it

0:38:21.089,0:38:26.280
is you know when you go when you get out

0:38:23.609,0:38:29.099
of the out of the United States it’s

0:38:26.280,0:38:32.099
exactly it’s exactly what happened we

0:38:29.099,0:38:34.859
here gets and yes you’re right now of

0:38:32.099,0:38:37.680
rice and an AT&T and and and I think

0:38:34.859,0:38:40.940
even tomorrow are doing arith rind or

0:38:37.680,0:38:43.770
adopt in Pearl the last two years or so

0:38:40.940,0:38:46.619
the Japanese model but when you go

0:38:43.770,0:38:49.020
outside of the United States you know to

0:38:46.619,0:38:52.650
to the more developing countries you

0:38:49.020,0:38:56.730
know the gelatine America did Africa

0:38:52.650,0:38:59.460
India so far so on even China now you

0:38:56.730,0:39:01.319
need to pay for your device that as you

0:38:59.460,0:39:03.119
said then an iPhone is a high-end

0:39:01.319,0:39:06.780
product that not everybody can afford

0:39:03.119,0:39:09.480
but you know a lot of people can you

0:39:06.780,0:39:13.339
know I I don’t know what are the

0:39:09.480,0:39:15.450
proportions but I know when you go to

0:39:13.339,0:39:17.760
specifically Latin America mostly

0:39:15.450,0:39:21.000
because it’s where where I travel and

0:39:17.760,0:39:23.880
where I do you know some business there

0:39:21.000,0:39:26.339
are most of the people have an Android

0:39:23.880,0:39:31.020
you know the iPhone is really high-end

0:39:26.339,0:39:33.359
luxury item more than more than the rule

0:39:31.020,0:39:35.490
is the exception and and it’s in part

0:39:33.359,0:39:38.069
because of that because doesn’t matter

0:39:35.490,0:39:41.460
if you can’t afford this $800 phone or

0:39:38.069,0:39:42.250
they $100 phone okay you can have a

0:39:41.460,0:39:48.340
phone

0:39:42.250,0:39:52.590
for most of this developing countries

0:39:48.340,0:39:56.260
their phone is their only computer and

0:39:52.590,0:39:58.870
not only that a lot of these people have

0:39:56.260,0:40:03.430
learned that they don’t need any other

0:39:58.870,0:40:04.780
thing you know many years ago you know

0:40:03.430,0:40:07.000
for a lot of these peoples where

0:40:04.780,0:40:11.980
computer were not even a dream to have

0:40:07.000,0:40:15.580
okay and and now all of them can have

0:40:11.980,0:40:19.870
our computer a full computer where they

0:40:15.580,0:40:22.360
can do a lot of the work for not to say

0:40:19.870,0:40:23.890
everything okay that a person can do

0:40:22.360,0:40:26.890
with a full fledged computer I

0:40:23.890,0:40:30.310
understand the limitations on the screen

0:40:26.890,0:40:34.810
but what some people don’t understand is

0:40:30.310,0:40:37.240
the limited the for some people the

0:40:34.810,0:40:40.210
states as well should I pick the 13

0:40:37.240,0:40:43.180
inches or the 15 inches for them is

0:40:40.210,0:40:46.300
should I work on my 4 inches or nothing

0:40:43.180,0:40:48.670
when that is that is a completely

0:40:46.300,0:40:52.000
different consideration and that makes

0:40:48.670,0:40:54.040
you having a four inch computer pulley

0:40:52.000,0:40:56.740
on your pocket again going back to

0:40:54.040,0:41:00.510
historic devices okay

0:40:56.740,0:41:03.990
when I went to law school okay I had a

0:41:00.510,0:41:06.850
what was at the time a Palm Pilot

0:41:03.990,0:41:10.780
professional and I had an external

0:41:06.850,0:41:13.600
keyboard okay and even that at that time

0:41:10.780,0:41:15.970
a laptop was three to five thousand

0:41:13.600,0:41:19.630
dollars and for five hundred dollars I

0:41:15.970,0:41:22.180
could do understanding I was a geek but

0:41:19.630,0:41:23.920
I could do a lot of what people could

0:41:22.180,0:41:26.440
not even accomplish on those four

0:41:23.920,0:41:26.980
thousand dollar slices again I could get

0:41:26.440,0:41:28.630
to court

0:41:26.980,0:41:31.120
and take notes better than anybody and

0:41:28.630,0:41:32.410
even because of my geeky inclinations

0:41:31.120,0:41:34.660
email them

0:41:32.410,0:41:36.850
okay when emails was you know these were

0:41:34.660,0:41:41.710
thin even before I get to the office if

0:41:36.850,0:41:45.040
I choose to so under that now it’s

0:41:41.710,0:41:47.650
coming to the reality and I think what

0:41:45.040,0:41:50.250
we what I’m still waiting and this is

0:41:47.650,0:41:56.430
now my my

0:41:50.250,0:41:58.380
gig wish many years ago when pound

0:41:56.430,0:42:00.780
computing went out of business

0:41:58.380,0:42:04.590
palm computing announced a product that

0:42:00.780,0:42:07.020
was going to call the folio okay that

0:42:04.590,0:42:10.590
people laugh at them okay

0:42:07.020,0:42:11.580
and for some geeks like me it was a

0:42:10.590,0:42:14.609
dream come true

0:42:11.580,0:42:17.250
and it was basically a terminal a dumb

0:42:14.609,0:42:20.010
terminal where you connect your phone to

0:42:17.250,0:42:22.349
and now you get a bigger screen again a

0:42:20.010,0:42:25.349
full-size keyboard okay but your main

0:42:22.349,0:42:28.290
computer according to that you know

0:42:25.349,0:42:30.810
project was going to be your phone you

0:42:28.290,0:42:33.000
just pair it you know be a bluetooth and

0:42:30.810,0:42:34.710
then you will get a fool you know

0:42:33.000,0:42:37.740
whatever what size of screen I don’t

0:42:34.710,0:42:45.510
remember but and I’m still waiting for

0:42:37.740,0:42:49.230
that device and I know HP has the patent

0:42:45.510,0:42:51.630
for that and there is a project for HP

0:42:49.230,0:42:54.450
to release now a device like that

0:42:51.630,0:42:57.089
because the reality is our phones are so

0:42:54.450,0:43:00.750
powerful these days computing power

0:42:57.089,0:43:02.730
being basic that they can do that you

0:43:00.750,0:43:05.250
know just have your computer when you

0:43:02.730,0:43:08.760
get to the office you doc that phone and

0:43:05.250,0:43:11.520
now you use this in full fledge and a 19

0:43:08.760,0:43:13.349
inch monitor and I’m still waiting for

0:43:11.520,0:43:16.170
that and that may be the only thing that

0:43:13.349,0:43:17.849
will make me consider go back to a PC if

0:43:16.170,0:43:21.540
HP do that because then I will have

0:43:17.849,0:43:24.270
everything on my pocket but but getting

0:43:21.540,0:43:25.470
out of the rent and agreeing with you in

0:43:24.270,0:43:28.800
this I think

0:43:25.470,0:43:31.400
if windows don’t do something you know

0:43:28.800,0:43:35.310
completely revolutionary like that

0:43:31.400,0:43:38.339
Android has been eating them you know

0:43:35.310,0:43:41.849
even to the point that if you think

0:43:38.339,0:43:44.520
about the following years ago Microsoft

0:43:41.849,0:43:46.619
Office ok was probably the most

0:43:44.520,0:43:49.290
expensive software in your machine

0:43:46.619,0:43:51.960
unless you have Adobe ok

0:43:49.290,0:43:53.490
and today they has been forced to make

0:43:51.960,0:43:56.609
it affordable otherwise people don’t

0:43:53.490,0:43:58.440
want it and you pay a couple bucks a

0:43:56.609,0:44:02.970
month out for it you know as opposed to

0:43:58.440,0:44:04.080
before right and not only that it’s

0:44:02.970,0:44:06.690
coming to the point

0:44:04.080,0:44:09.030
even with that they are having issues

0:44:06.690,0:44:12.330
getting people to install them and use

0:44:09.030,0:44:15.330
them there are so many good even better

0:44:12.330,0:44:18.090
in some cases propositions in the market

0:44:15.330,0:44:20.330
but it’s not needed well I mean they

0:44:18.090,0:44:22.170
they launched you know Microsoft online

0:44:20.330,0:44:24.120
because of that you know there just

0:44:22.170,0:44:26.430
weren’t enough Microsoft Office users

0:44:24.120,0:44:29.610
that the only way to sell them on being

0:44:26.430,0:44:31.920
able to you know subscribe to Microsoft

0:44:29.610,0:44:33.810
Office 365 or something like that where

0:44:31.920,0:44:36.510
you could actually purchase office the

0:44:33.810,0:44:38.730
office suite for the desktop was through

0:44:36.510,0:44:40.970
them selling to you through Microsoft

0:44:38.730,0:44:43.260
online and having that free service and

0:44:40.970,0:44:44.460
yeah so they’re gonna get squeezed I

0:44:43.260,0:44:46.410
mean that you know when you can have a

0:44:44.460,0:44:48.090
Google Drive environment where you can

0:44:46.410,0:44:51.330
use Google Docs and Google sheets and

0:44:48.090,0:44:55.020
Google slides basically word you know

0:44:51.330,0:44:57.750
Excel and PowerPoint for free in the web

0:44:55.020,0:45:01.320
and all of that you know collaborative

0:44:57.750,0:45:04.080
ability for no cost what’s the use of

0:45:01.320,0:45:06.450
buying Microsoft you know and end yeah

0:45:04.080,0:45:08.880
there are some power users of office

0:45:06.450,0:45:11.070
that do require the desktop version but

0:45:08.880,0:45:14.090
that’s a very very small market it’s a

0:45:11.070,0:45:17.910
very small market I hope we have give

0:45:14.090,0:45:21.750
something clear to the people of where

0:45:17.910,0:45:25.020
we see this this mobile world really

0:45:21.750,0:45:30.690
taking over you know I I laugh when I

0:45:25.020,0:45:32.940
when I wrote iPad only book I used to

0:45:30.690,0:45:34.890
laugh at people saying oh that will

0:45:32.940,0:45:37.620
never happen and I used to remind people

0:45:34.890,0:45:39.570
yes well you know many years ago when

0:45:37.620,0:45:41.340
the laptop came in the laptop were never

0:45:39.570,0:45:44.190
going to substitute the power of the

0:45:41.340,0:45:46.320
desktops okay and I don’t know many

0:45:44.190,0:45:51.720
people these days that have a desktop

0:45:46.320,0:45:56.220
okay and and I think we are back into

0:45:51.720,0:46:00.510
that same point where Dell tablets and

0:45:56.220,0:46:05.310
the mobile devices are now being more

0:46:00.510,0:46:09.510
powerful than many of these laptops and

0:46:05.310,0:46:11.490
I think people is fine is going to the

0:46:09.510,0:46:14.970
mainstream to the point that people is

0:46:11.490,0:46:16.530
final it’s covering oh well this may be

0:46:14.970,0:46:18.839
an option

0:46:16.530,0:46:21.540
and I think we are going to start now

0:46:18.839,0:46:24.510
seeing how that evolution now is going

0:46:21.540,0:46:28.589
to start really taking over the laptops

0:46:24.510,0:46:31.079
and computing as we know it it’s going

0:46:28.589,0:46:34.859
to evolve again in the same way it

0:46:31.079,0:46:38.430
changed read evolve from from the

0:46:34.859,0:46:40.770
desktop to the laptop and I for one I’m

0:46:38.430,0:46:42.960
really excited to see what is next I

0:46:40.770,0:46:44.849
think I think the quotation to close us

0:46:42.960,0:46:46.230
out today is the one of Nelson Mandela

0:46:44.849,0:46:48.960
which is it’s always seems impossible

0:46:46.230,0:46:52.050
until it’s done and I think that’s the

0:46:48.960,0:46:54.329
case of sort of the app world today the

0:46:52.050,0:46:56.069
app ecosystem along with the desktop

0:46:54.329,0:46:58.140
software ecosystem and and our

0:46:56.069,0:47:00.119
connectedness to the Internet as well as

0:46:58.140,0:47:02.250
IOT Internet of Things which I’m sure

0:47:00.119,0:47:03.900
we’ll talk about in future episodes but

0:47:02.250,0:47:06.060
the reality is is that we are in this

0:47:03.900,0:47:08.910
you know sort of brave new technological

0:47:06.060,0:47:11.369
world in which Mobile will dominate I

0:47:08.910,0:47:13.650
think I can’t I can’t believe this but

0:47:11.369,0:47:17.819
Augusto and I agree on almost everything

0:47:13.650,0:47:19.829
today that we talked about and so you

0:47:17.819,0:47:22.140
know the reality is is here we are in

0:47:19.829,0:47:24.480
this brave new technological digital

0:47:22.140,0:47:27.210
world that is really fundamentally going

0:47:24.480,0:47:29.520
mobile and soon I think that it’s very

0:47:27.210,0:47:32.010
true that our our phones or other mobile

0:47:29.520,0:47:34.800
devices will be our primary sole

0:47:32.010,0:47:36.900
computing device and we’ll just sort of

0:47:34.800,0:47:39.869
connect to these dummy terminals that

0:47:36.900,0:47:42.390
are able to you know pull in the data

0:47:39.869,0:47:44.280
and processing power of what’s in our

0:47:42.390,0:47:46.020
pockets you know potentially even

0:47:44.280,0:47:47.940
smaller than that maybe you know what’s

0:47:46.020,0:47:49.500
attached to our wrists if you if we have

0:47:47.940,0:47:52.290
you know smartwatches

0:47:49.500,0:47:54.420
that are that powerful as well so we’re

0:47:52.290,0:47:57.510
there and we’re gonna be continuing to

0:47:54.420,0:47:58.920
to move that peg forward out to sort of

0:47:57.510,0:48:00.480
a mass environment and I think that’s

0:47:58.920,0:48:01.980
really really very interesting and I

0:48:00.480,0:48:03.839
think that that’s gonna affect all of

0:48:01.980,0:48:06.960
our productivity in that way it’s gonna

0:48:03.839,0:48:09.119
make us have to become aware of the the

0:48:06.960,0:48:11.550
platform of the ecosystem that we choose

0:48:09.119,0:48:13.349
so thank you all for listening this has

0:48:11.550,0:48:15.960
been I thought a really fun chat with

0:48:13.349,0:48:19.050
you gusto regarding what’s sort of going

0:48:15.960,0:48:21.240
on in the in the Google world and and

0:48:19.050,0:48:23.220
mobile world generally and hopefully

0:48:21.240,0:48:24.780
we’ll see you and or you’ll hear us on

0:48:23.220,0:48:25.890
the next episode of productivity cast

0:48:24.780,0:48:26.609
the weekly show of all things

0:48:25.890,0:48:27.720
productivity

0:48:26.609,0:48:29.020
thanks so much and here’s to your

0:48:27.720,0:48:30.730
productive life

0:48:29.020,0:48:33.310
that’s it for this episode of

0:48:30.730,0:48:36.160
productivity cast the weekly show about

0:48:33.310,0:48:40.830
all things productivity with your hosts

0:48:36.160,0:48:40.830
ray Sydney Smith and Augusto pan out

 

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